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20080105_scallawag_sm Bike routes and the Tourist Loop for Huntsville, Alabama

Added the long bike trek I took the other day. Going there over Monte Sano was difficult. Coming back over Four Mile Post road and Cecil Ashburn Drive was insanely difficult. Up-the-hill, pedal-by-pedal, inch-by-inch. Whew!

Also added the part of the Tourist "Trolley" loop I took by the U.S. Space and Rocket Center (Hi Space Camp!) and the Huntsville Botanical Gardens.

I think I've added the bus and bicycle relation right. I pretty much have the bicycling stuff down now, but the buses are still on a learning curve for me. If it's way wrong someone who know more than me about local bus routes can fix it.

Location: 35805, Alabama, United States of America (View / Edit)
Posted by cainmark on 8 September 2010 at 23:08 in English (English)
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Anon_small freedesktop.org Geolocalization. No citation for OSM. Why?

I found the webpage on the (not yet ready?) geolocalization service for freedesktop.org.

freedesktop.org is "open source / open discussion software projects working on interoperability and shared technology for X Window System desktops. The most famous X desktops are GNOME and KDE, but developers working on any Linux/UNIX GUI technology are welcome to participate."
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Home

Their geolocalization service is called GeoClue and here is its description: "Geoclue is a modular geoinformation service. The goal of the Geoclue project is to make creating location-aware applications as simple as possible.
Geoclue is Free Software, licensed under GNU LGPL. It is developed for Linux, but should be portable to any platform that uses D-Bus."
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/GeoClue

At the end of the description page linked just above the cite various "Possible data sources". There is not even a word about OSM.
I think that someone should contact them.
Any idea on the right person(s)?

Posted by FraMauro on 8 September 2010 at 22:10 in English (English)
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Anon_small Fermate bus ATAC (Roma). Tag per il numero

Le fermate dei bus urbani a Roma, oltre ad avere un nome descrittivo, sono identificate da un codice numerico di 5 cifre. Da quanto ho capito questo codice è il vero identificativo della fermata, visto che il nome è molto descrittivo e spesso lungo.
A titolo di esempio la fermata con codice 71000 si chiama "Bravetta / Scaligeri" e si trova in via di Bravetta - 00164 Roma
In vari casi (soprattutto per la richiesta dei tempi d'attesa alla fermata, specie da dispositivo mobile) può essere estremamente utile conoscere questo codice, e comunque mi pare una informazione importante. Che tipo di tag va utilizzato per questa voce?
Da qui:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop#Tagging_advice
leggo le proposte asset_ref e ref. C'è qualche consenso a riguardo nella zona di Roma (o in generale in Italia)?

Grazie in anticipo per l'aiuto

Location: Quirinale, Italia (View / Edit)
Posted by FraMauro on 8 September 2010 at 21:49 in Italian (Italiano)
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Marshallwithhatbig App Mashups & My New Love for OSM

I just created an account last night and am having SO MUCH FUN with OSM! Last night I discovered new things about an old radio tower in my neighborhood, then used a browser plug-in called Apture to learn more about it without leaving the OSM page. Then used Archive.org to find some historical information that I then added to the notes field in the point on the map. So much fun!

I wrote about the experience and put in screenshots here http://marshallk.com/why-i-love-the-internet-so-much I highly recommend using the Apture browser plug-in along with OSM.

thanks everybody for making such a wonderful site, I'm really excited to participate in it!

Location: 97218, Oregon, United States of America (View / Edit)
Posted by Marshallk on 8 September 2010 at 21:00 in English (English)
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Anon_small prematurkläder

är ny här tänkte bara rekomendera
http://www.lillapyret.se

Posted by lillapyret on 8 September 2010 at 20:03 in Swedish (Svenska)
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Anon_small Eigener Openstreetmap Server

ich werde mal versuchen, einen eigenen lokalen Openstreetmap Server aufzusetzen.

Ich werde erst einmal der Anleitung unter

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Rails_Port

versuchen zu folgen.

Posted by mmr on 8 September 2010 at 18:52 in German (Deutsch)
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Anon_small Cabecera Municipal

Departamento: San Marcos
Municipio: San Marcos

Location: San Marcos, Guatemala (View / Edit)
Posted by EldCast on 8 September 2010 at 14:37 in Spanish (Español)
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Anon_small My web page

You can wisit my new website... www.leechking.com

Location: Užupis, Vilnius, Senamiesčio seniūnija, Vilniaus m. savivaldybė, Vilniaus apskritis, Lietuvos Respublika (View / Edit)
Posted by Jasinka on 8 September 2010 at 10:36 in Lithuanian (Lietuvių)
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Anon_small Excellent source for geodetic/mapping-related Android apps

I highly recommend http://androgeoid.com/ if you have an Android phone and are interested in those kinds of applications. The writer tests the software nicely and focuses on free (to use) apps.

Posted by HannesHH on 8 September 2010 at 08:50 in English (English)
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Myself Reading - house numbers

Reading - house numbers

Posted by Eriks Zelenka on 8 September 2010 at 08:48 in English (English)
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Anon_small Just Getting Started - need guidance

Project
Enter data for a newly opened hospital in Spotsylvania, VA USA. It's a big problem because the "big" mappers have old images that just show trees! When people try to get directions, the routing takes them 10-20 minutes out of their way. This can be a problem when lives and outcomes are at stake. Help and encouragement would be appreciated. I'm doing this as a volunteer just to help save lives and reduce/prevent suffering. I figure once I enter the data, the big mappers can import it into their databases. I may be naive in that assumption.

Equipment
I have a TomTom XL that I installed Tripmaster V3.1 on. Getting good verifiable traces when walking. However when driving, the results can get pretty inconsistent. There's probably some settings that one could tweak when doing driving runs, but I'm not yet up to speed on the software.

Mapping aids
I have a detailed to scale site map in PDF I can trace. Haven't yet figured out how to import it and scale it to fit. I could probably cheat and simply display it on the screen, take a screen shot, and then save to tif, jpg, bmp, or whatever is most friendly for OSM. Again I'm new at this and don't want to reinvent the wheel or start doing things the hard way when some of the pros with a few "do this" and "look at that" helps can point me in the right direction.

Happy mapping...

Location: 22408, Virginia, United States of America (View / Edit)
Posted by HCA_SRMC on 8 September 2010 at 02:33 in English (English)
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Anon_small french: cartographie de Landemont insee 49172

Bonjour,

J'ai commencé la cartographie complète de Landemont (insee 49172) en me basant sur le cadastre d'une part et de mes relevés sur le terrain d'autre part. J'ai si on peut dire, pris cette commune sous mon aile et compte bien la compléter autant que possible.

Lien vers la carte :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/302020

Location: Landemont, Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France (View / Edit)
Posted by Ashar Voultoiz on 7 September 2010 at 21:22 in French (Français)
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Anon_small récupération du bati du cadastre sur JOSM

Y-a-t-i un moyen de récupérer automatiquement le bati du cadastre sur JOSM?
si oui cmment on fait?
merci de la réponse
Jean-Luc

Posted by Jean Luc on 7 September 2010 at 16:21 in French (Français)
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Anon_small Postbox orienteering

Bah! Given up on Chrome. Can't turn animations off realistically.

Anybody know what a "posting suite" is ? in RM terminology ? Is this a bit like "custody suite" where they don't even have a mini-bar or sky-tv in the cells ? Boo.

Posted by rmw on 7 September 2010 at 10:01 in English (English)
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Anon_small cannot edit with Iceweasel 3.0.11 on Debian

most of the time clicking on the edit mode (saved or immediate) has no effect, but finally I was able to click "saved" and got a cursor that looks like an ancient pen tip. I can't do anything with it, clicking does nothing.

Posted by jcomeau_ictx on 7 September 2010 at 04:40 in English (English)
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080621-19_43_45 New York State steam/diesel roads

Well .... I'm mostly done with the steam/diesel railroads in New York. Moving on to the trolley / interurban roads. Going to be a LOT more work because the trolleys were usually street-running. That means adding a lot of railway=abandoned to roads.

Posted by RussNelson on 7 September 2010 at 01:46 in English (English)
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Anon_small Postboxes - what else

Still can't find SG5 100.

Multiple trudges; traversed footpaths because I've found a few with no road access. Nothing.

Does anybody else have a postbox which turns out to be their nemesis: they can't find it despite a protracted search ?

Has anybody managed to intercept the post-persun on their rounds and have a look at their collection round card ?

Given the postcode, it looks like it might be inside a school. Is this likely ? Do the RM put boxes inside schools nowadays ?

Found a nice website with a few WR8 boxes and their locations on. Have asked if I can use the information and how it was derived.

Posted by rmw on 6 September 2010 at 21:49 in English (English)
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Anon_small The Cardboard Box Makers Club

See The Pottery Club for context

Imagine a small town with a very active club of cardboard box makers. The club members make and supply cardboard boxes for the town's people and the people are mostly happy with that. There are some other box suppliers, but their boxes are not recyclable and are actually closed, so you can't put your Garmin GPS in one of those boxes. You need an open box to do that and the Cardboard Box Club makes such boxes.

This club forms a small community of box makers, most of them are crafts people who make the boxes as a hobby. Each of these boxes is a little different, some boxes have round corners or strange sizes or aren't exactly cubic, because they are hand-made. Now the people in the town can cope with imperfect boxes but they would prefer standard sized boxes with no variations, so they can efficiently store things in them. In fact most of the community are people who had a need for good cardboard boxes, but couldn't find ones that would satisfy their needs anywhere, so they decided to do something about it and joined the club.

Now not all boxes in the world are hand-made. There are industrial machines (more automated or less automated) that can make perfect boxes in large quantities and some people in the club know about them. Many of the club members were disillusioned when they first learnt about the useful machines that made the boxes of the same size as they had been making personally, and had been regretting the time they put into doing it manually when they could be perfecting the craft of operating such a machine. They know that the users of their boxes would have been happier too.

Of course not all of the machines are perfect, some (like the model called PANTHER) are more sloppy than human box makers, but still very fast.

However there is a couple of members in the club who make every effort to discourage the usage of the box-making machines and instead prefer doing it manually and that everyone else also does it manually. One of their arguments is that operating the machines isn't as engaging as doing it manually and the club's community would fall apart. There is however a community of box making machine operators that is good friends with the club, sometimes even the makers of these machines come to the club meetings to socialise.

Despite this anti-automatic-box-making minority, some people are already using machines to make their boxes, and the users of the boxes seem happy. Some of the clubbers even made robots that wander around the club room and fix some of the imperfections of the boxes made by the beginner box makers.

There is however one of the anti-automatic-box-making clubbers who went as far as saying that all of the Australian machine-made cardboard boxes should be burnt or recycled, even taking them away from people who have already stored some of their Garmin GPSes in those boxes, and subsequently re-made manually. He is generally of the opinion that manual box making should be the only way to make boxes in the club, and if the cardboard's period of bio-degradation is shorter, then all the better because the club will have more boxes to make. He also encourages some of the members to leave the club and start their own so that the clubs can compete against one another, and the losing club's boxes all go to waste.

Needless to say this is very far from what the town's people would like (and most members). They just want good boxes and don't want anyone's efforts wasted on things other than perfecting the boxes.

Posted by balrog-kun on 6 September 2010 at 21:26 in English (English)
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Cevennesid 5 septembre 2010 - Morschwiller-le-Bas

Ajout de quelques chemins ruraux, et de pylônes et lignes électriques. Chaque pylône porte des indications sur la ligne qu'il supporte, le voltage et une référence de ce pylône sur la ligne. A noter.
Existe-t-il un atlas des lignes électriques ?

Location: 68790, Alsace, Europe (View / Edit)
Posted by JitenshaNiko on 6 September 2010 at 19:44 in French (Français)
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Anon_small Vattaro

Completata la prima Modifica delle Vie del Paese.
Vediamo cosa c'è da Migliorare....

Posted by LucaGPS on 6 September 2010 at 16:45 in Italian (Italiano)
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