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最近台灣成為新聞與地綠政治的熱門話題。最近看到臺灣 BBS 站 PTT 討論步兵期刊由步兵訓練指揮部軍官所寫的屏東南邊的防禦計畫的文章

大概是地圖因為上有敏感的內容,所以需要霧化模糊處理,不過綠色的森林區域相當顯目,文章當中的軍圖底圖的確是 OpenStreetMap 沒錯。需要感謝辛苦花自己時間,在 OpenStreetMap 上畫臺灣森林的圖客。

最近有越來越多的服務、開發者、組織,甚至政府單位,例如今年在臺北舉行的臺灣燈會,網站是採用 OpenStreetMap。社群已經懶得記錄有那些站了,不過希望 OpenStreetMap 在臺灣有越來越多的應用情境。

Location: 後塭子, 嘉蓮里, 東港鎮, 屏東縣, 928, 臺灣

步兵期刊 ê 文章用 OpenStreetMap 當做底圖

Posted by Supaplex on 28 March 2023 in Chinese (中文). Last updated on 8 April 2023.

本文章同時嘛有提供 English version kah 台灣華語版本

最近台灣 sī 新聞 kah 地綠政治 ê 熱門話題。最近看著臺灣 BBS 站 PTT 佇咧討論步兵期刊步兵訓練指揮部軍官所寫 ê 屏東南爿 ê 防禦計畫ê文章

準做地圖因為 ū 敏感 ê 內容,所以 ài 霧霧處理,毋過青色 ê 森林傷影目–ah,文章當中 ê 軍圖底圖 sī 真真正正 ê OpenStreetMap 無毋著。bueh 感謝辛苦做議量 ê OpenStreetMap 貢獻者 ê 時間畫臺灣 ê 森林。

最近愈來愈濟 ê 服務、開發者、組織,甚至政府單位親像 tī 臺北舉行 ê 臺灣燈會網站,攏咧用 OpenStreetMap,咱已經貧惰記錄–ah。向望 OpenStreetMap tī 臺灣 ū 愈來愈濟 ê 應用場景。

Location: 後塭子, 嘉蓮里, 東港鎮, 屏東縣, 928, 臺灣

OpenStreetMap used as based map in Taiwan Infantry Period articles

Posted by Supaplex on 28 March 2023 in English (English). Last updated on 29 March 2023.

This article is also available in Taiwanese Hokkien / Taigi (台文)

Taiwan is quite a hot topic in the news and geo-political discussion. Recently I read an thead discussing defense plans in the southern part of Pingtong by Taiwan Infantry Command officers on Taiwan BBS PTT military board.

Even though maps are blurred due to the detailed map might have some sensitive military information, it can easily be recognized by the green forest area, that the based maps they use are actually OpenStreetMap. Thanks to the hard-working OpenStreetMap mappers that keep drawing forests in Taiwan.

There are more services, developers, organizations, and even government agencies using OpenStreetMap as based map recently. And the 2023 Taiwan Lantern Festival was held in Taipei, and their website also is using OpenStreetMap as the base map. The community in Taiwan is lazy to keep track of those use cases. We hope there are more interesting OpenStreetMap use cases in Taiwan.

Location: Houwenzi, Jialian Village, Dongang, Pingtung County, 928, Taiwan

本文章同時嘛有提供 English version華語版本

開放街圖臺灣社群(OpenStreetMap 臺灣社群)誠歡喜爭取到維基媒體基金會的聯盟補助,主要欲買兩台 Insta360 One X2 翕相機(佮相關的配件),猶閣有規劃對2022年3月開始,一直到2023年2月的街景踏查團佮對應的編輯工作坊活動。咱欲辦理六擺實地踏查佮至少六擺的編輯工作坊。社群成員欲共360翕相機囥佇汽車車頂,若開車若翕360相片,翕猶未翕著街景的所在。翕了後佇咧電腦前,閣來若看翕的相片,若編輯 OpenStreetMap 共編地圖添加資料,猶有共路途中間經過的景緻佮在庄聚落,共相關相片上傳到 Wiki Commons 多媒體站。

Khai-hóng Kue-tôo Tâi-uân Siā-kûn(OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân Siā-kûn)tsiânn huann-hí tsing-tshú kàu Uî-ki Muî-thé Ki-kim-huē ê Liân-bîng Póo-tsōo, tsú-iàu bueh bué nn̄g-tâi Insta360 One X2 hip-siòng-ki (Kah siong-kuan ê phuè-kiānn), iáu-koh-ū kui-uē tuì 2022-nî 3–ge̍h khai-sí, it-ti̍t kàu 2023-nî 2–ge̍h ê kue-kíng tah-tshâ-thuân kah tuì-ìng ê pian-tsi̍p kang-tsok-hong ua̍h-tōng. Lán-bueh pān-lí la̍k-pái si̍t-tuē tah-tsâ kah tsì-tsió la̍k-pái ê pian-tsi̍p kang-tsok-hong. Siā-kûn sîng-uân bueh kā 360 hip-siòng-ki khǹg tī khì-tshia tshia-tíng, nā khui-tshia nā hip 360 siòng-phìnn, hip iah-bē hip-tio̍h kue-kíng ê sóo-tsāi. hip liáu-āu tī tiān-náu tsîng, koh-lâi nā khuànn hip–ê siòng-phìnn, nā pian-tsi̍p OpenStreetMa kiōng pian tuē-tôo thiam-ka tsu-liāu, iáu-ū kā lōo-tôo tiong-kan king-kè ê kíng-tì kap tsāi-tsng tsu-lo̍h, kā siong-kuan siòng-phìnn siōng-thuân kàu Wiki Commons to-muî-thé-tsām.

這擺踏查團和頂擺行無仝的方向,頂擺是對北海岸(主要是基隆、金山、萬里)的方向行,毋過這擺是對鶯歌、三峽、大溪的方向翕相,和頂擺無仝,這擺是三台車的出發地點攏無仝(筆者駕駛的車是對和運租車新店站出發的,佇出發進前嘛發見路對面的新店區公所站二號出口猶未翕過,所以就順手翕一張囥佇 Wikimedia Commons頂懸)。

Tsit-pái tah-tsha-thuân hām tíng-pái kiânn bô-kâng ê hong-hiòng, tíng-pái sī tuì Pak-hái-huānn (tsú-iàu sī Ke-lâng, Kim-san, Bān-lí) ê hong-hiòng kiânn, m̄-koh tsit-pái sī tuì Ing-ko,Sam-kiap, Tāi-khe ê hong-hiòng hip-siòng, hām tíng-pái bô-kâng, tsit-pái sī sann-tâi-tshia ê tshut-huat tuē-tiám lóng bô-kâng (pit-tsiá ká-sú ê tshia sī tuì Hô-ūn Tsoo-tshia Sin-tiàm-tsām tshut-huat ê, tī tshut-huat tsìn-tsîng mā huat-kìnn lōo tuì-bīn ê Sin-tiàm Khu-kong-sóo tsām 2-hō tshut-kháu iah-bē hi̍p–kè, sóo-í tō sūn-tshiú hip tsi̍t-tiunn khǹg tī Wikimedia Commons 頂懸).

新店區公所站二號出口
新店區公所站二號出口|Sin-tiàm Khu-kong-sóo tsām 2-hō tshut-kháu

行車的路線嘛攏無仝(毋過中間抑是有設立會合點,是佇三峽白雞山的行脩宮)。

Kiânn-tshia ê lōo-suànn mā lóng bô-kâng (m̄-koh tiong-kan ia̍h-sī ū siat-li̍p huē-ha̍p-tiám, sī tī Sam-kiap Pe̍h-kue-suann ê Hîng-siu-kiong).

三峽行脩宮
三峽行脩宮|Sam-kiap Hîng-siu-kiong

毋過親像頂擺的街景踏查團仝款,這改出門抑是發見一寡執行上的小可仔問題,親像是360相機看起來是愛直接鎖佇車用吸盤上,袂使閣加自翕棒架懸,猶若會因為自翕棒重量的關係予相機斜倒,相片翕的角度無正確,猶閣有就是……出發進前愛會記得共記憶卡內的物件攏總紲出來,抑若無路途中間愛停落來刣相片XD。

M̄-koh tshin-tshiūnn tíng-pái ê kue-kíng tah-tshâ-thuân kâng-khuán, tsit-kái tshut-mn̂g ia̍h-sī huat-kiàn tsi̍t-kuá tsip-hîng-siōng ê sió-khuá-á būn-tê, tshin-tshiūnn sī 360 siòng-ki khuànn-khí-lâi sī ài ti̍t-tsiap só tī tshia-iōng khip-puânn siōng, buē-sái koh-ka tsū-hip-pāng kè-kuân, iah-nā-ē in-uī tsū-hip-pāng tāng-liōng ê kuan-hē hōo siòng-ki tshiâ-tó, siòng-phìnn hip-ê kak-tōo bô-tsìng-khak, iáu-koh-ū tō-sī……tshut-huat tsìn-tsîng ài-ē-kì-tit kā kì-i-khah lâi ê mn̍gh-kiānn lóng-tsóng suà-tshut-lâi, iah-nā-bô lōo-tôo tiong-kan ài thîng-lo̍h-lâi thâi siòng-phìnn XD.

這擺街景踏查團佇維基媒體計畫的追蹤用 Dashboard,OpenStreetMap 編輯會當佇看會著。

Tsi̍t-pái Kue-kíng Ta̍h-tshâ-thuân tī Uî-ki Muî-thé Kè-uē ê tui-tsong iōng Dashboard, OpenStreetMap pian-tsi̍p ē-tàng tī tsia khuànn-ē-tio̍h.

有關聯盟補助的代誌

2021年第四季時,維基媒體基金會公佈新的補助方案:維基媒體聯盟補助,這項補助會資助佮維基媒體計畫有關的專案,毋過並毋是各地的維基媒體自治體提出的提案。

iú-kuan liân-bîng póo-tsōo ê tāi-tsì

2021-nî tē-4-kuì sî,Uî-ki Muî-thé Ki-kim-huē kong-pòo sin-ê póo-tsōo hong-àn: Uî-ki Muî-thé Liân-bîng póo-tsōo, tsit-hāng póo-tsōo ē tsàn-tsōo kah Uî-ki Muî-thé kè-uē iú-kuan ê tsuan-àn, m̄-koh pīng m̄-sī kok-tuē ê Uî-ki Muî-thé tsū-tī-thé the̍h-tshut ê thê-àn.

有關 OpenStreetMap 臺灣的代誌

OpenStreetMap 臺灣由臺灣關心投入 OpenStreetMap 的編輯者構成,自 2010 年開始對個人獨編輯變成集合閣較濟人參與的共編地圖專案的在地社群。目前佇臺灣有佇台北佮 Wikidata 社群共同舉行 OpenStreetMap x Wikidata 月聚,嘛有不定期的踏查活動。

iú-kuan OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân ê tāi-tsì

OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân iû Tâi-uân kuan-sim tâu-ji̍p OpenStreetMap ê pian-tsi̍p-tsiá kòo-sîng, tsū 2010-nî khai-sí tuì kò-jîn to̍k pian-tsi̍p piàn-sîng tsi̍p-ha̍p koh-khah tsuē lâng tsham-ú ê kiōng-pian tuē-tôo tsuan-àn ê tsāi-tuē siā-kûn. Bo̍k-tsîng tī Tâi-uân ū tī Tâi-pak kah Wikidata siā-kûn kiōng-tông kú-hîng OpenStreetMap x Wikidata ge̍h-tsū, mā-ū put-tīng-kî ê tah-tshâ ua̍h-tōng.

本文感謝 Supaplex 協助校對並翻譯台文版本,英文版是 assanges 翻譯,全部文章用姓名標示-相同方式分享 4.0 國際授權。

Pún-bûn kám-siā Supaplex hia̍p-tsōo kàu-tuì pīng huan-i̍k Tâi-bûn pán-pún, Ing-bûn pán sī assanges huan-i̍k, tsuân-pōo bûn-tsiong iōng sìng-bîng piáu-sī-kâng-khuán hong-sik hun-hióng 4.0 kok-tsè siū-khuân.

Location: 竹崙, 三峽區, 新北市, 23743, 臺灣

2nd Mapping workshop in MozTW Space Taipei ▲ 第二擺的工作坊的相片

本文嘛有 Taiwanese Mandarin (台灣華語) 英文 / English 版本


著,你無看毋著,頂擺是第一擺的街景踏查團,毋過這擺是第二擺的編輯工作坊,你敢好玄為何毋是第一擺的編輯工作坊,這……講起來話頭長,莫佇遮寫好啦XD,看頂擺的日記猶是有法度看會出來,抑是佇聚會時來共咱開講。

Tio̍h, lí bô khuànn-m̄-tio̍h, tíng-pái sī Tē-it-pái ê kue-kíng tah-tsâ-thuân, m̄-koh tsit-pái sī tē-jī-pái ê pian-tsi̍p kang-tsok-hong, lí kám hònn-hiân uī-hô m̄-sī tē-it-pái ê pian-tsi̍p kang-tsok-hong, tse……kóng-khí-lâi uē-thâu-tn̂g, mài tī tsia siá hó–lah XD, khuànn tíng-pái ê ji̍t-kì 猶是 ū-huat-tōo khuànn-ē–tshut-lâi, ia̍h-sī tī tsū-huē sī lâi kā lán khai-káng.

是講,自頂擺的街景踏查團 ~~(公費旅行團)~~ 了後,開放街圖臺灣社群(OpenStreetMap 臺灣社群)佇2022年5月22號佇摩茲工寮舉辦用來編輯街景踏查團收集到資料的工作坊。毋過台灣疫情因素,予實體活動的參與人數變真少,嘛仝步影響這擺第二擺工作坊出席人數。毋過猶是有兩位地理老師來到現場。

A big shout-out to the enthusiastic geography teachers! ▲ 熱情的地理老師來參加活動!

sī-kóng, tsū tíng-pái ê kue-kíng tah-tsâ-thuân ~~(kong-huì lú-hîng-thuân)~~ liáu-āu, Khai-hóng kue-tôo Tâi-uân siā-kûn(OpenStreetMap Taiwan) tī 2022-nî 5-ge̍h 22-hō tī Moz kang-liâu kú-pān iōng-lâi pian-tsi̍p kue-kíng tah-tsâ-thuân siu-tsi̍p kàu tsu-liāu ê kang-tsok-hong. M̄-koh Tâi-uân i̍k-tsîng in-sòo, hōo si̍t-thé ua̍h-tōng ê tsham-ú jîn-sòo piàn tsin-tsio, mā kâng-pōo íng-hióng tsit-pái tē-jī-pái kang-tsok-hong tshut-si̍k jîn-sòo. M̄-koh iáu-sī ū nn̄g-uī tuē-lí lāu-su lâi-kàu hiān-tiûnn.

頭起先紹介 OpenStreetMap 佮 Wikidata(仝場加映 MapillaryKartaView 等等其他維基媒體專案的紹介),閣來主持人之一的 Supaplex 現場示範利用踏查團翕的 Mapillary 360 影像佇 OpenStreetMap 繪製佇新店央北重劃區內的超商門市,閣有對 Mapillary 下載相片並且上傳到維基共享資源,閣來佇 Wikidata 上新增新北市青年社會住宅的新項目。

The National Human Rights Museum ▲ 國家人權博物館的 360 相片

Thâu-khí-sing siāu-kài OpenStreetMap kah Wikidata (kâng-tiûnn ka-ìng Mapillary kah KartaView tíng-tíng kî-thá Uî-ki muî-thé tsuan-àn ê siāu-kài), koh-lâi tsú-tshî-jîn tsi-it ê Supaplex hiān-tiûnn sī-huān lī-iōng tah-tsâ-thuân hip ê Mapillary 360 iánn-siōng tī OpenStreetmap uē-tsè tī Sin-tiàm Iong-pak Tîng-uē-khu lāi ê tshiau-siong mn̂g-tshī, koh-u tuì Mapillary hā-tsài siòng-phìnn pīng-tshiánn siōng-thuân kàu Uî-ki Kiōng-hiáng Tsu-guân, koh-lâi tī Wikidata siōng sin-tsing Sin-pak-tshī Tshing-liân Siā-huē Tsū-the̍h ê sin-hāng-bo̍k.

紹介佮示範了後開放現場參與者自由編輯以上提到的網站內容,編輯過程當中嘛發現一寡共 360 相片相關的問題,比如講維基共享資源愛另外加添 {{pano360}} 模板才會當完整辨識 360 相機翕的相片,閣來 KartaView 佇上傳 360 照片時愛佇上傳指令加上一寡選項才會當其正常辨識。

Coffee Bouth

咱期待要閣調整講解難度佮減少講解內容,偏向閣較實作型的教學,有問題閣再提出來。頭前講師簡單講完本次任務了後,多位資深編輯手把手協助新手完成工作事項。

咱嘛歡迎隨時線頂運用四月踏查成果,看街景圖佇咧電腦上添加看到的商家抑是住宅建案。台灣數一數二的重量級貢獻者 littlebtc 工作坊當天無法度來參加,伊是增加完成央北重劃區的建案,猶有後續央北二期的計畫道路繪製工課。

road trip

第一擺街景踏查團翕的相片,佮這擺編輯工作坊的相關成果會當佇後尾清單看著:

當然矣,工作坊當天的影像紀錄嘛袂少。此外,後擺的踏查團佇2022年6月19日舉辦,歡迎大家鬥陣來參與!

有關聯盟補助的代誌

2021年第四季時,維基媒體基金會公佈新的補助方案:維基媒體聯盟補助,這項補助會資助佮維基媒體計畫有關的專案,毋過並毋是各地的維基媒體自治體提出的提案。

iú-kuan liân-bîng póo-tsōo ê tāi-tsì

2021-nî tē-4-kuì sî,Uî-ki Muî-thé Ki-kim-huē kong-pòo sin-ê póo-tsōo hong-àn: Uî-ki Muî-thé Liân-bîng póo-tsōo, tsit-hāng póo-tsōo ē tsàn-tsōo kah Uî-ki Muî-thé kè-uē iú-kuan ê tsuan-àn, m̄-koh pīng m̄-sī kok-tuē ê Uî-ki Muî-thé tsū-tī-thé the̍h-tshut ê thê-àn.

有關 OpenStreetMap 臺灣的代誌

OpenStreetMap 臺灣由臺灣關心投入 OpenStreetMap 的編輯者構成,自 2010 年開始對個人獨編輯變成集合閣較濟人參與的共編地圖專案的在地社群。目前佇臺灣有佇台北佮 Wikidata 社群共同舉行 OpenStreetMap x Wikidata 月聚,嘛有不定期的踏查活動。

iú-kuan OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân ê tāi-tsì

OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân iû Tâi-uân kuan-sim tâu-ji̍p OpenStreetMap ê pian-tsi̍p-tsiá kòo-sîng, tsū 2010-nî khai-sí tuì kò-jîn to̍k pian-tsi̍p piàn-sîng tsi̍p-ha̍p koh-khah tsuē lâng tsham-ú ê kiōng-pian tuē-tôo tsuan-àn ê tsāi-tuē siā-kûn. Bo̍k-tsîng tī Tâi-uân ū tī Tâi-pak kah Wikidata siā-kûn kiōng-tông kú-hîng OpenStreetMap x Wikidata ge̍h-tsū, mā-ū put-tīng-kî ê tah-tshâ ua̍h-tōng.

本文感謝 Supaplex 協助校對並翻譯台文版本,英文版是 assanges 翻譯,全部文章用姓名標示-相同方式分享 4.0 國際授權。

Pún-bûn kám-siā Supaplex hia̍p-tsōo kàu-tuì pīng huan-i̍k Tâi-bûn pán-pún, Ing-bûn pán sī assanges huan-i̍k, tsuân-pōo bûn-tsiong iōng sìng-bîng piáu-sī-kâng-khuán hong-sik hun-hióng 4.0 kok-tsè siū-khuân.

Location: 光華商場, 梅花里, 中正區, 華山, 臺北市, 100013, 臺灣

臺文漢字版本

開放街圖臺灣社群(OpenStreetMap 臺灣社群)誠歡喜爭取到維基媒體基金會的聯盟補助,主要欲買兩台 Insta360 One X2 相機(佮相關的配件),猶閣有規劃對2022年3月開始,一直到2023年2月的街景踏查團佮對應的編輯工作坊活動。咱欲辦理六擺實地踏查佮至少六擺的編輯工作坊。社群成員欲共360相機囥佇汽車車頂,若開車若翕360相片,翕猶未翕著街景的所在。翕了後佇咧電腦前,閣來若看翕的相片,若編輯 OpenStreetMap 共編地圖添加資料,猶有共路途中間經過的景緻佮在庄聚落,共相關相片上傳到 Wiki Commons 多媒體站。

社群頭起先佇2022年3月19號先佇台北的摩茲工寮舉辦踏查團的前導工作坊,頂個月(也就是2022年4月)24號舉辦第一改的街景踏查團,佇咧取車抑是自駕到位時,先佇咧央北重劃區安裝翕相機佮試翕,4台車攏總11个人出發欲去基隆、金山、萬里等行政區,其中翕國道三號部份欠缺街景的路段。路途當中佇仙洞隧道歇停,毋過干焦翕磅空兩爿的磅空口,磅空本體目前是無法度入去的。閣來一陣人分做去仙洞巖佮迴車塔。仙洞嚴彼組是入去廟內的一線天,不而過燈火較暗翕的效果無蓋好。迴車塔彼組是翕台灣較罕得看的人工車道斜坡。後來咱去大武崙漁港附近會合,歇睏時補充熱量佮水份,仝一个時間觀察週末的海沙埔佇疫情影響之下,嘛是有足濟民眾佇海沙埔耍水。

中晝佮下晡時間去金山老街等所在踅踅,佇水尾漁港揣食的佮踏查取材。猶有到金山老街品嘗芋圓美味了後,閣兵分多路轉去台北。

OpenStreetMap 台灣預計佇本月(2022年5月)22號仝款佇摩茲工寮舉辦第一次的街景踏查團編輯工作坊,活動當中會利用事先上傳到 Mapillary、KartaView 等開放的街景網站的相片來編輯 OpenStreetMap(變更集將會帶有 #streetsurveyTW 主題標籤),嘛會對翕的相片當中揀選部份景點抑是維基媒體計畫中無照片或當地相片真舊猶未更新,共新翕的相片上傳到維基共享資源,仝時嘛會當利用上傳到維基共享資源的相片來編寫維基百科、維基導遊抑是維基數據等維基媒體專案。歡迎有興趣的人報名參與!

咱向望開放街圖佮維基媒體等等開放內容的計畫會當愈來愈好,產出閣較濟高品質的資料!

有關聯盟補助的代誌

2021年第四季時,維基媒體基金會公佈新的補助方案:維基媒體聯盟補助,這項補助會資助佮維基媒體計畫有關的專案,毋過並毋是各地的維基媒體自治體提出的提案。

有關 OpenStreetMap 臺灣的代誌

OpenStreetMap 臺灣由臺灣關心投入 OpenStreetMap 的編輯者構成,自 2010 年開始對個人獨編輯變成集合閣較濟人參與的共編地圖專案的在地社群。目前佇臺灣有佇台北佮 Wikidata 社群共同舉行 OpenStreetMap x Wikidata 月聚,嘛有不定期的踏查活動。

本文感謝 Supaplex 協助校對並翻譯成台文版,英文版由 assanges 翻譯,並以姓名標示-相同方式分享 4.0 國際授權。

Tâi-lô pán-pún

Khai-hóng Kue-tôo Tâi-uân Siā-kûn(OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân Siā-kûn)tsiânn huann-hí tsing-tshú kàu Uî-ki Muî-thé Ki-kim-huē ê Liân-bîng Póo-tsōo, tsú-iàu bueh bué nn̄g-tâi Insta360 One X2 hip-siòng-ki (Kah siong-kuan ê phuè-kiānn), iáu-koh-ū kui-uē tuì 2022-nî 3–ge̍h khai-sí, it-ti̍t kàu 2023-nî 2–ge̍h ê kue-kíng tah-tshâ-thuân kah tuì-ìng ê pian-tsi̍p kang-tsok-hong ua̍h-tōng. Lán-bueh pān-lí la̍k-pái si̍t-tuē tah-tsâ kah tsì-tsió la̍k-pái ê pian-tsi̍p kang-tsok-hong. Siā-kûn sîng-uân bueh kā 360 hip-siòng-ki khǹg tī khì-tshia tshia-tíng, nā khui-tshia nā hip 360 siòng-phìnn, hip iah-bē hip-tio̍h kue-kíng ê sóo-tsāi. hip liáu-āu tī tiān-náu tsîng, koh-lâi nā khuànn hip–ê siòng-phìnn, nā pian-tsi̍p OpenStreetMa kiōng pian tuē-tôo thiam-ka tsu-liāu, iáu-ū kā lōo-tôo tiong-kan king-kè ê kíng-tì kap tsāi-tsng tsu-lo̍h, kā siong-kuan siòng-phìnn siōng-thuân kàu Wiki Commons to-muî-thé-tsām.

Siā-kûn thâu-khí-sing tī 2022-nî 3–ge̍h 19-hō sian tī Tâi-pak ê MozSpac kú-pān tah-tsâ-thuân ê tsîng-tō kang-tsok-hong, tíng-kò-ge̍h (iā tio̍h-sī 2022-nî 4–ge̍h) 24-hō kú-pān tē-it-kái ê kue-kíng tah-tsâ-thuân, tī-teh tshú-tshia ia̍h-sī tsū-kà kàu-uī liáu-āu, sian tī-teh Iong-pak tíng-uē-khu an-tsong hip-siòng-ki kah tshì-hip, 4-tâi tshia lóng-tsóng 11-ê-lâng tshut-huat bueh-khì Ke-lâng、bān-lí、kim-san tíng hîng-tsìng-khu, kî-tiong hip Kok-tō 3-hō pōo-hūn khiàm-khuat kue-kíng ê lōo-tuānn. lōo-tôo tang-tiong tī Sian-tōng Pōng-khang hio̍h-thîng, m̄-koh kan-na hip pōng-khang nn̄g-pîng ê pōng-khang-kháu,pōng-khang pún-thé bo̍k-tsîng sī bô-huat-tōo ji̍p-khì–ê. Koh-lâi tsit-tīn-lâng hun-tsuè-khì Sian-tōng-giâm kah huê-tshia-thah. Sian-tōng-giâm hit-tsoosī ji̍p-khì biō-lāi ê tsi̍t-suànn-thinn, put-jî-kò lāi-tué ê ting-hé khah-àm, hip ê hāu-kó bô-kài-hó. Huê-tshia-thah hit-tsoo sī hip Tâi-uân khah hán-tit-khuànn ê jîn-kang tshia-tō tshiâ-pho. Āu-lâi lán-khì Tuā-bú-lūn Hîr-gáng hù-kūn huē-ha̍p, hioh-khùn sî póo-tshiong jia̍t-liōng kah tsuí-hūn, kâng-tsi̍t-ê sî-kan kuan-tshat tsiu-bua̍h ê hái-sua-poo tī i̍k-tsîng íng-hióng tsi-hā, mā-sī ū tsiok-tsuē bîn-tsiòng tī hái-sua-poo sńg-tsuí.

Tiong-tàu kah ē-poo sî-kan khì Kim-san Lāu-kue tíng sóo-tsāi se̍h-se̍h–leh, tī Tsuí-bué Hîr-káng tshē tsia̍h-ê kah tah-tshâ tshú-tsâi. Iáu-ū kàu Kim-san Lāu-kue phín-siông Ōo-înn Bí-bī liáu-āu, koh ping-hun to-lōo tńg-khì Tâi-pak.

OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân ū-kè tī pún-ge̍h (2022-nî 5–ge̍h) 22-hō kâng-khuán tī MozSpce kú-pān tē-it-pái ê kue-kíng tah-tshâ-thuân pian-tsi̍p kang-tsok-hong, ua̍h-tōng hit-kang ē lī-iōng sū-sian siōng-thuân kàu Mappillary, KartaView tíng khai-hòng ê kue-kíng bāng-tsām ê siòng-phìnn lâi pian-tsi̍p OpenStreetMap (piàn-king-tsi̍p tsiong-ē tài-ū #streetsurveyTW tsú-tê piau-tshiam), mā ē tuì hip-ê siòng-phìnn tang-tiong kíng-suán pōo-hūn kíng-tiám ia̍h-sī Uî-ki muî-thé kè-uē tiong bô siòng-phìnn ia̍h-sī tong-tuē siòng-phìnn tsin-kū iah-bē king-sin, kā sin hip ê siòng-phìnn siōng-thuân kàu Uî-ki Kiōng-hiáng tsu-guân, kâng-sî mā ē-tàng lī-iōng siōng-thuân kàu Uî-ki Kiōng-hiáng tsu-guân ê siòng-phìnn lâi pian-siá Uî-ki Pah-kho, Uî-ki Tō-iû ia̍h-sī Uî-ki sòo-kù tíng Uî-ki Muî-thé tsuan-àn. Huan-gîng ū hìng-tshù ê lâng pò-miâ tsham-ú!

Lán ǹg-bāng Khai-hòng Kue-tôo kah Uî-ki Muî-thé tíng-tíng khai-hòng luē-iông ê kè-uē ē-tàng jú-lâi-jú-hó, sán-tshut koh-khah tsuē ko-phín-tsit ê tsu-liāu!

iú-kuan liân-bîng póo-tsōo ê tāi-tsì

2021-nî tē-4-kuì sî,Uî-ki Muî-thé Ki-kim-huē kong-pòo sin-ê póo-tsōo hong-àn: Uî-ki Muî-thé Liân-bîng póo-tsōo, tsit-hāng póo-tsōo ē tsàn-tsōo kah Uî-ki Muî-thé kè-uē iú-kuan ê tsuan-àn, m̄-koh pīng m̄-sī kok-tuē ê Uî-ki Muî-thé tsū-tī-thé the̍h-tshut ê thê-àn.

iú-kuan OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân ê tāi-tsì

OpenStreetMap Tâi-uân iû Tâi-uân kuan-sim tâu-ji̍p OpenStreetMap ê pian-tsi̍p-tsiá kòo-sîng, tsū 2010-nî khai-sí tuì kò-jîn to̍k pian-tsi̍p piàn-sîng tsi̍p-ha̍p koh-khah tsuē lâng tsham-ú ê kiōng-pian tuē-tôo tsuan-àn ê tsāi-tuē siā-kûn. Bo̍k-tsîng tī Tâi-uân ū tī Tâi-pak kah Wikidata siā-kûn kiōng-tông kú-hîng OpenStreetMap x Wikidata ge̍h-tsū, mā-ū put-tīng-kî ê tah-tshâ ua̍h-tōng.

Pún-bûn kám-siā Supaplex hia̍p-tsōo kàu-tuì pīng huan-i̍k Tâi-bûn pán-pún, Ing-bûn pán sī assanges huan-i̍k, tsuân-pōo bûn-tsiong iōng sìng-bîng piáu-sī-kâng-khuán hong-sik hun-hióng 4.0 kok-tsè siū-khuân.

Pe̍h-ōe-jī pán-pún

Khai-hóng Koe-tô͘ Tâi-oân Siā-kûn(OpenStreetMap Tâi-oân Siā-kûn)chiâⁿ hoaⁿ-hí cheng-chhú kàu Ûi-ki Mûi-thé Ki-kim-hōe ê Liân-bêng Pó͘-chō͘, chú-iàu boeh bóe nn̄g-tâi Insta360 One X2 hip-siòng-ki (Kah siong-koan ê phòe-kiāⁿ), iáu-koh-ū kui-ōe tùi 2022-nî 3–ge̍h khai-sí, it-ti̍t kàu 2023-nî 2–ge̍h ê koe-kéng tah-chhâ-thoân kah tùi-èng ê pian-chi̍p kang-chok-hong oa̍h-tōng. Lán-boeh pān-lí la̍k-pái si̍t-tōe tah-châ kah chì-chió la̍k-pái ê pian-chi̍p kang-chok-hong. Siā-kûn sêng-oân boeh kā 360 hip-siòng-ki khǹg tī khì-chhia chhia-téng, nā khui-chhia nā hip 360 siòng-phìⁿ, hip iah-bē hip-tio̍h koe-kéng ê só͘-chāi. hip liáu-āu tī tiān-náu chêng, koh-lâi nā khòaⁿ hip–ê siòng-phìⁿ, nā pian-chi̍p OpenStreetMa kiōng pian tōe-tô͘ thiam-ka chu-liāu, iáu-ū kā lō͘-tô͘ tiong-kan keng-kè ê kéng-tì kap chāi-chng chu-lo̍h, kā siong-koan siòng-phìⁿ siōng-thoân kàu Wiki Commons to-mûi-thé-chām.

Siā-kûn thâu-khí-seng tī 2022-nî 3–ge̍h 19-hō sian tī Tâi-pak ê MozSpac kú-pān tah-châ-thoân ê chêng-tō kang-chok-hong, téng-kò-ge̍h (iā tio̍h-sī 2022-nî 4–ge̍h) 24-hō kú-pān tē-it-kái ê koe-kéng tah-châ-thoân, tī-teh chhú-chhia ia̍h-sī chū-kà kàu-ūi liáu-āu, sian tī-teh Iong-pak téng-ōe-khu an-chong hip-siòng-ki kah chhì-hip, 4-tâi chhia lóng-chóng 11-ê-lâng chhut-hoat boeh-khì Ke-lâng、bān-lí、kim-san téng hêng-chèng-khu, kî-tiong hip Kok-tō 3-hō pō͘-hūn khiàm-khoat koe-kéng ê lō͘-tōaⁿ. lō͘-tô͘ tang-tiong tī Sian-tōng Pōng-khang hio̍h-thêng, m̄-koh kan-na hip pōng-khang nn̄g-pêng ê pōng-khang-kháu,pōng-khang pún-thé bo̍k-chêng sī bô-hoat-tō͘ ji̍p-khì–ê. Koh-lâi chit-tīn-lâng hun-chòe-khì Sian-tōng-giâm kah hôe-chhia-thah. Sian-tōng-giâm hit-tsoosī ji̍p-khì biō-lāi ê chi̍t-sòaⁿ-thiⁿ, put-jî-kò lāi-tóe ê teng-hé khah-àm, hip ê hāu-kó bô-kài-hó. Hôe-chhia-thah hit-cho͘ sī hip Tâi-oân khah hán-tit-khòaⁿ ê jîn-kang chhia-tō chhiâ-pho. Āu-lâi lán-khì Tōa-bú-lūn Hîr-gáng hù-kūn hōe-ha̍p, hioh-khùn sî pó͘-chhiong jia̍t-liōng kah chúi-hūn, kâng-chi̍t-ê sî-kan koan-chhat chiu-boa̍h ê hái-soa-po͘ tī e̍k-chêng éng-hióng chi-hā, mā-sī ū chiok-chōe bîn-chiòng tī hái-soa-po͘ sńg-chúi.

Tiong-tàu kah ē-po͘ sî-kan khì Kim-san Lāu-koe téng só͘-chāi se̍h-se̍h–leh, tī Chúi-bóe Hîr-káng chhē chia̍h-ê kah tah-chhâ chhú-châi. Iáu-ū kàu Kim-san Lāu-koe phín-siông Ō͘-îⁿ Bí-bī liáu-āu, koh peng-hun to-lō͘ tńg-khì Tâi-pak.

OpenStreetMap Tâi-oân ū-kè tī pún-ge̍h (2022-nî 5–ge̍h) 22-hō kâng-khoán tī MozSpce kú-pān tē-it-pái ê koe-kéng tah-chhâ-thoân pian-chi̍p kang-chok-hong, oa̍h-tōng hit-kang ē lī-iōng sū-sian siōng-thoân kàu Mappillary, KartaView téng khai-hòng ê koe-kéng bāng-chām ê siòng-phìⁿ lâi pian-chi̍p OpenStreetMap (piàn-keng-chi̍p chiong-ē tài-ū #streetsurveyTW chú-tê piau-chhiam), mā ē tùi hip-ê siòng-phìⁿ tang-tiong kéng-soán pō͘-hūn kéng-tiám ia̍h-sī Ûi-ki mûi-thé kè-ōe tiong bô siòng-phìⁿ ia̍h-sī tong-tōe siòng-phìⁿ chin-kū iah-bē keng-sin, kā sin hip ê siòng-phìⁿ siōng-thoân kàu Ûi-ki Kiōng-hiáng chu-goân, kâng-sî mā ē-tàng lī-iōng siōng-thoân kàu Ûi-ki Kiōng-hiáng chu-goân ê siòng-phìⁿ lâi pian-siá Ûi-ki Pah-kho, Ûi-ki Tō-iû ia̍h-sī Ûi-ki sò͘-kù téng Ûi-ki Mûi-thé choan-àn. Hoan-gêng ū hèng-chhù ê lâng pò-miâ chham-ú!

Lán ǹg-bāng Khai-hòng Koe-tô͘ kah Ûi-ki Mûi-thé téng-téng khai-hòng lōe-iông ê kè-ōe ē-tàng jú-lâi-jú-hó, sán-chhut koh-khah chōe ko-phín-chit ê chu-liāu!

iú-koan liân-bêng pó͘-chō͘ ê tāi-chì

2021-nî tē-4-kùi sî,Ûi-ki Mûi-thé Ki-kim-hōe kong-pò͘ sin-ê pó͘-chō͘ hong-àn: Ûi-ki Mûi-thé Liân-bêng pó͘-chō͘, chit-hāng pó͘-chō͘ ē chàn-chō͘ kah Ûi-ki Mûi-thé kè-ōe iú-koan ê choan-àn, m̄-koh pēng m̄-sī kok-tōe ê Ûi-ki Mûi-thé chū-tī-thé the̍h-chhut ê thê-àn.

iú-koan OpenStreetMap Tâi-oân ê tāi-chì

OpenStreetMap Tâi-oân iû Tâi-oân koan-sim tâu-ji̍p OpenStreetMap ê pian-chi̍p-chiá kò͘-sêng, chū 2010-nî khai-sí tùi kò-jîn to̍k pian-chi̍p piàn-sêng chi̍p-ha̍p koh-khah chōe lâng chham-ú ê kiōng-pian tōe-tô͘ choan-àn ê chāi-tōe siā-kûn. Bo̍k-chêng tī Tâi-oân ū tī Tâi-pak kah Wikidata siā-kûn kiōng-tông kú-hêng OpenStreetMap x Wikidata ge̍h-chū, mā-ū put-tēng-kî ê tah-chhâ oa̍h-tōng.

Pún-bûn kám-siā Supaplex hia̍p-chō͘ kàu-tùi pēng hoan-e̍k Tâi-bûn pán-pún, Eng-bûn pán sī assanges hoan-e̍k, choân-pō͘ bûn-chiong iōng sèng-bêng piáu-sī-kâng-khoán hong-sek hun-hióng 4.0 kok-chè siū-khoân.

Location: 龜子山, 金山區, 新北市, 20845, 臺灣

最近香港 OpenStreetMap 社群出狀況,有人一直將山名改做舊的名稱,再來新增加聚落名稱也用舊名稱。有較資深的人說明能夠添加 alt_name 或是 old_name 標籤,不過編輯者看來聽不進去。有山友看不下去,開記者會向大眾報告,紛擾香港社群幾個月的編輯戰要給予使用 OpenStreetMap 的人怎樣的山區內容。

想要更改大家習慣山名的人,用一本作者自己踏查結果寫的書本,並不是經過學術方式檢驗內容,而且也忽略大眾有習慣的叫法,也持續好幾年了。有不少山頭的古早名稱是客家人留下來的,用的漢字與香港話的叫法是不同的。社群的人改這位編輯的更動,卻被他改回來,也沒有聽別人的解說與顧慮。香港有相當多用 OpenStreetMap 資料的登山 app,地圖畫面也被改得亂七八遭。

他們編輯戰進行好幾個月了,幾天前我用 Data Working Group 的身份介入,將不聽勸告的帳號封鎖,不過看來他有其他帳號,繼續編輯他們認為正確的山名與地名。好佳哉香港社群的人能夠及時改回來,不過一些 app 仍然是抓取舊的地圖資料,因此錯誤的資料留在上面。

其實像是 OpenStreetMap 與維基百科,最怕一些堅持自己是對的人,別人改動他的資料,就趕緊改回來,也無法溝通。有活躍的社群改正回來,即便被人封了帳號,他還可以繼續創新帳號繼續編輯,並不想放棄。

台灣也有發生類似的事情,有一個帳號叫愛台灣,用網路流傳的山路GPS,將別人走過的路線畫上 OpenStreetMap。有相當多沒有其他來源,可能就是探查的路線被畫上去了。

也有人不管先前基石與最高點位分開標示的決議,將基石全部改成山峰,因此被不少人誤會。幾年前 OpenStreetMap 社群與登山社群協調好了,就是基石就是基石,山峰與基石應該獨立標示。

臺灣這裡的 OpenStreetMap 的發展重點在爬山山路的部份,與非洲、南亞、東南亞的國家是救災目的並不一樣。歐美那邊的國家有完整的山路開放資料,所以不論是公司、社團想要做爬山地圖真的相當容易。臺灣無商業力量想要做爬山地圖,因此讓 OpenStreetMap 有機會發揮的地方。

看著香港最近的事件,同樣有爬山的人愛開放街圖,靠熱心貢獻者,因此有能力畫完整的山路。

Location: 離島區, 新界, 香港, 中国

There is chaos happening in the OpenStreetMap Hong Kong community recently. Someone keeps changing peak name into its old name and sometimes changing hamlet into its old name too. There are some senior OpenStreetMap contributors who remind him

and changed the names to old names. Some old names are original from Hakka people, which use different Chinese characters compared to Hong Kong Cantonese names.

The community members reverted his edit, and included the name he added as alt_name or old_name. But he doesn’t accept it, and changes back to the name he added. And of course not listening to others’ concerns. There are so many Hong Kong hiking apps using OpenStreetMap data. His edits made things worse for people who rely on apps’ map data.

He and the community members have edit wars for months. I use my Data Working Group privilege and hope to solve the chaos. I block several accounts and hope they could listen and discuss with the concerned community members. But soon we find out he has multi-accounts or a butch of coordinated accounts. And I have to block those accounts too.

Taiwan hiking community relies on OpenStreetMap data too, just like in Hong Kong. But fortunately, Taiwanese Hokkien origin names have just a few differences from Taiwanese Mandarin, compare to Hong Kong Hakka and Hong Kong Cantonese. Just a few years ago, the OpenStreetMap Taiwan community have an agreement with the Taiwan Hiking community, we will map the survey points and peaks separately. And will not upload survay GPS traces to the OpenStreetMap database.

OpenStreetMap Taiwan’s biggest use case is hiking. And the hiking trail is drawn and maintained by the hiking community in Taiwan, making the hiking trails very detail compare to roads network, POI, buildings and landuses in Taiwan. Taiwan situation is quite different compared to Africa, South Asia, or South East Asia, we didn’t have much use case of emergency.

We already have well-funded government rescue agencies and NGO systems. European and American countries don’t have trouble accessing detailed mountain hiking trails and companies or organizations have no trouble making hiking maps.

It is very hard for companies to make hiking maps in Taiwan. That is OpenStreetMap opportunity in Taiwan: the default hiking map in Taiwan. Taiwan and Hong Kong have a similar contributor demographic: the hiking mappers. They are the main force to draw hiking trails.

Location: East Tsim Sha Tsui, Tsim Sha Tsui, Yau Tsim Mong District, Kowloon, Hong Kong, 999077, China

香港山峰的編輯戰

Posted by Supaplex on 23 April 2022 in Chinese (中文).

最近香港遐个 OpenStreetMap 社群有出代誌,有人一直共山的名改做舊的名,閣加添聚落的名改做舊的名。有較資深的人共伊講會當添加 alt_name 抑是 old_name 嘛袂聽得。有山友看袂落去,開記者會共大眾報告,紛擾香港社群幾個月的編輯戰佮欲予使用 OpenStreetMap 的人啥款的山區內容。

欲改逐家慣勢的山名的人,用一本家己踏查結果寫的冊,毋是經過學術方式檢驗內容,嘛忽略大眾有慣勢的山名,已經叫幾若年矣。有袂少山的古早名是客家人留落來的,用的漢字較這馬香港話是無啥仝。社群的人改伊的編輯,嘛予伊改轉來,嘛毋聽別人的解說佮顧慮。香港有誠濟用 OpenStreetMap 資料的山 app,予伊按呢改變亂操操。

𪜶編輯戰進行幾個月矣,幾工前我用 Data Working Group 的身份介入,共毋聽勸的口座封鎖,毋過看來伊有足濟口座,繼續編輯伊認為正確的山名佮地號名。好佳哉香港社群的人會當及時改就轉來,猶毋過一寡 app 猶是掠舊的地圖資料,予錯誤的資料留佇頂面。

其實親像 OpenStreetMap 佮維基百科,上驚一寡堅持家己是著的人,別人改in的資料,就趕緊改轉來,嘛無法度溝通。有骨力會社群,毋過予人封鎖,伊繼續創新口座繼續編輯,無咧放棄。

台灣嘛有發生相的代誌,有一个口座叫愛台灣的,毋知佗位揣的山路GPS,共別人的路線畫佇咧 OpenStreetMap 頂懸。有真濟揣無其他來源,可能是探查的路線嘛予人畫去。

嘛有人毋管基石佮上懸所在分開標示,共基石攏總改做山峰,予袂少人誤會。幾年前 OpenStreetMap 社群有共𬦰山社群講好矣,就是基石就是基石,山峰佮基石應該獨立標示。

臺灣遮的 OpenStreetMap 的發展重點佇咧𬦰山山路的部份,佮非洲、南亞、東南亞的國家是救災目的無仝。歐美遐的國家有完整的山路開放資料,所以逐家不論是公司、社團想欲做𬦰山地圖誠容易。臺灣無商業力量想欲做𬦰山地圖,煞予 OpenStreetMap 有機會發揮。

看著香港最近的事件,仝款有𬦰山的人愛開放街圖,靠熱心貢獻者,會當畫完整的山路。

Location: 太平山, 上環, 中西區, 香港島, 香港, 中国

最近佇咧 OSM dialy 遐有人寫文章,認為 talk-tw 的討論變矣,傷排外用手段阻止編輯。我佇咧想你敢是佮我看仝款的 mailing list,這幾年大都是 weeklyOSM 的出版公告,猶閣有匯入佮大量編輯的通告,確定逐家無問題就動手來做,講實在是無啥物咧討論。

古早時代 talk-tw mailing list 有社群進行串聯熟似彼此,制定臺灣各級行政區的標籤方式,欲社群聚會的時間討論等等重要的議題。後來真濟討論走去較濟人的 Facebook 社團遐,mailing list 就無啥人用。

社群討論不論是佇咧佗位,毋就是欲出聲討論,逐家攏有無仝看法佮做法,提出來嘛會當修正,嘛無看著有其他人的意見 。社群機制親像臺灣原住民區域遐的部落會議,進前亞泥佮在地部落欲諮詢部落敢會當繼續開採礦場,欲開部落會議來投票,過程有好好討論就好,來爭取各方支持。

在地力量在地社群辛辛苦苦咧維護,揣𪜶討論,應該毋是傷過份的代志。進前嘛有外國公司,一个 Snap 想欲模仿 Google 按呢佇 OpenStreetMap 遐存各國認為的「國家」邊界,臺灣予𪜶認為是中國的,所以愛有一个中國認為的臺灣是𪜶的邊界,予社群認為無共識閣爭議傷濟予阻止。採取較激烈的手段是欲為著落尾的討論來起頭,因為好好佇咧編織討論留話,真濟擺是無人回的。

嘛有公司推捒無啥問題的物件,親像 Here 創臺灣的 Maprouttle Challenge 修正臺灣遮的地圖小問題,Apple 嘛有用 Maprouttle Challenge 希望社群有人會當鬥跤手來修正地圖的問題。

我遮有共 Talk-tw 當做愛發文來吸引人來回的目的,社群莫干焦一个所在討論,另外一方面是欲記錄,因為 Facebook 討論濟,毋過無好揣,寄批信到 mailing list 留記錄。

Location: 信義鄉, 南投縣, 臺灣省, 臺灣

臺文漢字版本

進前彼篇文章予人講看無,顯示一般看漢字的人預設彼文章是華語的。但是佇咧台灣推捒本土語言教育的狀況,其實是有可能是寫台文佮客人話文章。這爿囥一寡臺語教學的網站佮書予袂曉臺語的人參考:

這幾年台灣的OpenStreetMap社群嘛有重視濟語言的工課,先共重要的都市庄頭標示台語佮客語的名號,甚至是原住民區的部落,嘛標示𪜶族語的名號。

看無毋捌意思的漢字文章毋是真大的代誌,無受著相關的語言教育的人誠自然就毋捌,乖乖請人抑是倩人來翻譯就好矣。較熟似香港文化的人,嘛看會著粵語字。

頭前講著OpenStreetMap的濟語言標示,毋但是國際西洋的語言,嘛愛處理在庄的本土語言。這幾年咱的社群愈來愈重視,共縣市,鄉鎮市區,甚至是角頭的小地號名嘛加上台語名號。車頭,捷運站,重要的公車轉運站嘛是加上台語名號。不而過客語較無法度,愛有客人參與,這馬客人較無貢獻。

  • name:nan
  • name:nan-HJ
  • name:nan-POJ
  • name:nan-TL
  • name:hak

國外西洋的地號名的部份,有固有的地號名就用固有的,親像Russia翻做露西亞。原住民的部份,因為in有完整的部落清單佮羅馬字寫法,所以會當沓沓仔共𪜶的地號名加上本底的GNS地號名遐,就是愛有人做。歡迎有興趣的人來幫贊鬥陣來完成。

Tâi-lô pán-pún

Tsìn-tsîng hit-phinn bûn-tsiong hōo-lâng kóng khuànn-bô, hián-sī it-puann khuànn hàn-jī ê lâng ū-siat hit bûn-tsiong sī huâ-gú ê. Tān-sī tī-teh Tâi-uân thui-sak pún-thóo gū-giân kàu-io̍k ê tsōng-hóng, kî-si̍t sī ū-khó-lîng sī siá Tâi-bûn kah Kheh-lâng-uē bûn-tsiong. Tsit-pîng khǹg tsi̍t-kuá Tâi-gú kàu-ha̍k ê bāng-tsām kah tsu hōo buē-hiáu Tâi-gú ê lâng tsham-khó:

Tsit-kuí-nî Tâi-uân ê OpenStreetMap siā-kûn mā-ū tiōng-sī tsuē-gū-giân ê khang-khuè, sian kā tiōng-iàu-ê too-tshī tsng-thâu piáu-sī Tâi-gú kah Kheh-gú ê miâ-hō, sīm-tsì sī guân-tsū-bîn-khu ê pōo-lo̍k, mā piáu-sī in tso̍k-gú ê miâ-hō.

Khuànn-bô m̄-bat i-su ê hàn-jī bûn-tsiong m̄-sī tsin-tuā ê tāi-tsì, bô-siū-tio̍h siong-kuan gū-giân kàu-io̍k ê lâng tsiânn tsū-jiân tō m̄-bat, kuai-kuai tshiánn-lâng ia̍h-sī tshiànn-lâng lâi huan-i̍k tō-hó–ah. Khah-si̍k-sāi Hiong-káng bûn-huà ê lâng, mā khàunn ē tio̍h Ua̍t-gú-jī.

Thâu-tsîng kóng-tio̍h OpenStreetMap ê tsuē-gū-giân piáu-sī, m̄-nā sī kok-tsè se-iûnn ê gū-giân, mā-ài tshú-lí tsāi-tsng ê pún-thóo gū-giân. Tsit-kuí-nî lán-ê siā-kûn jú-lâi-jú tiōng-sī–ah kā kuān-tshī, hiong-tìn-tshī-khu, sīm-tsì sī kak-thâu ê sió tuē-hō-miâ ka-siōng Tâi-gú miâ-hō. Tshia-thâu, tsia̍t-ūn-tsām, Tiōng-iàu ê kong-tshia-tsuán-ūn-tsām mā-sī ka-siōng Tâi-gú miâ-hō. Put-jî-kò Kheh-gú khah bô-huat-tōo, ài-ū Kheh-lâng tsham-ú, tsit-má Kheh-lâng khah bô kòng-hiàn.

  • name:nan
  • name:nan-HJ
  • name:nan-POJ
  • name:nan-TL
  • name:hak

Kok-guā se-iûnn ê tuē-hō-miâ ê pōo-hūn, ū kòo-iú ê tuē-hō-miâ tō iōng kòo-iú ê, tshin-tshiūnn Russia huan-tsuè Lōo-se-a. Guân-tsū-bîn ê pōo-hūn, in-uī in-ū uân-tsíng ê pōo-lo̍k tshing-tuann kah Lô-má-jī siá-huat, sóo-í ē-tàng ta̍uh-ta̍uh-á kā in-ê tuē-hō-miâ ka-siōng pún-tué ê GNS tuē-hō-miâ hiah, tio̍h-sī ài ū-lâng tsuè, Huan-gîng ū-hìng-tshù ê lâng lâi pang-tsān tàu-tīn lâi uân-sîng.

Pe̍h-ōe-jī Pán-pún

Chìn-chêng hit-phiⁿ bûn-chiong hō͘-lâng kóng khòaⁿ-bô, hián-sī it-poaⁿ khòaⁿ hàn-jī ê lâng ū-siat hit bûn-chiong sī hôa-gú ê. Tān-sī tī-teh Tâi-oân thui-sak pún-thó͘ gū-giân kàu-io̍k ê chōng-hóng, kî-si̍t sī ū-khó-lêng sī siá Tâi-bûn kah Kheh-lâng-ōe bûn-chiong. Chit-pêng khǹg chi̍t-kóa Tâi-gú kàu-ha̍k ê bāng-chām kah chu hō͘ bōe-hiáu Tâi-gú ê lâng chham-khó:

Chit-kúi-nî Tâi-oân ê OpenStreetMap siā-kûn mā-ū tiōng-sī chōe-gū-giân ê khang-khòe, sian kā tiōng-iàu-ê to͘-chhī chng-thâu piáu-sī Tâi-gú kah Kheh-gú ê miâ-hō, sīm-chì sī goân-chū-bîn-khu ê pō͘-lo̍k, mā piáu-sī in cho̍k-gú ê miâ-hō.

Khòaⁿ-bô m̄-bat i-su ê hàn-jī bûn-chiong m̄-sī chin-tōa ê tāi-chì, bô-siū-tio̍h siong-koan gū-giân kàu-io̍k ê lâng chiâⁿ chū-jiân tō m̄-bat, koai-koai chhiáⁿ-lâng ia̍h-sī chhiàⁿ-lâng lâi hoan-e̍k tō-hó–ah. Khah-se̍k-sāi Hiong-káng bûn-hòa ê lâng, mā khàuⁿ ē tio̍h Oa̍t-gú-jī.

Thâu-chêng kóng-tio̍h OpenStreetMap ê chōe-gū-giân piáu-sī, m̄-nā sī kok-chè se-iûⁿ ê gū-giân, mā-ài chhú-lí chāi-chng ê pún-thó͘ gū-giân. Chit-kúi-nî lán-ê siā-kûn jú-lâi-jú tiōng-sī–ah kā koān-chhī, hiong-tìn-chhī-khu, sīm-chì sī kak-thâu ê sió tōe-hō-miâ ka-siōng Tâi-gú miâ-hō. Chhia-thâu, chia̍t-ūn-chām, Tiōng-iàu ê kong-chhia-choán-ūn-chām mā-sī ka-siōng Tâi-gú miâ-hō. Put-jî-kò Kheh-gú khah bô-hoat-tō͘, ài-ū Kheh-lâng chham-ú, chit-má Kheh-lâng khah bô kòng-hiàn.

  • name:nan
  • name:nan-HJ
  • name:nan-POJ
  • name:nan-TL
  • name:hak

Kok-gōa se-iûⁿ ê tōe-hō-miâ ê pō͘-hūn, ū kò͘-iú ê tōe-hō-miâ tō iōng kò͘-iú ê, chhin-chhiūⁿ Russia hoan-chòe Lō͘-se-a. Goân-chū-bîn ê pō͘-hūn, in-ūi in-ū oân-chéng ê pō͘-lo̍k chheng-toaⁿ kah Lô-má-jī siá-hoat, só͘-í ē-tàng tau̍h-tau̍h-á kā in-ê tōe-hō-miâ ka-siōng pún-tóe ê GNS tōe-hō-miâ hiah, tio̍h-sī ài ū-lâng chòe, Hoan-gêng ū-hèng-chhù ê lâng lâi pang-chān tàu-tīn lâi oân-sêng.

Location: 崁頭, 鹿谷村, 鹿谷鄉, 南投縣, 558, 臺灣

最近發現有個中國帳號正規化 KFC 的標籤,編輯變動的 boundary 有夠大,甚至把台灣包進去。近期一些主要的 QA 工具如 OSMCha並沒有辦法處理這麼大的 boundary,無法視覺化編輯,看到到底動了什麼,可能是 Overpass API 出問題,因此需要手動檢核有沒有動到台灣的物件。檢查之後應該是沒有動到台灣的物件,但他在編輯變動留言說沒有動到「台灣地區」,這台灣沒在用的名字看了不是很舒服。

我這邊建議,雖然 QA 工具出問題,無法輕易檢查該次編輯是不是有狀況,雖然這筆編輯的確動的只有一個國家範圍,把編輯範圍縮小,分幾次來上傳,將編輯變動 boundary 弄小一點,避免引起誤解,也可以輕易的檢核有沒有出問題。而達人可以繼續畫地圖,避免可能的問題,然後不用花時間在溝通上面。

台灣雖然是個小地方,但是有不少辛辛苦苦畫地圖的圖客,很認真依照事實,看眼前的事物來加東西到 OpenStreetMap 上面。但有時遇到人要挑戰事實,加上非事實的事物,強逼台灣人接受非在地觀點的事物。這種事情是違反 OpenStreetMap 的現地觀察事物,才能加上 OpenStreetMap 上面的 on the ground truth 原則

OpenStreetMap 的如同其姊妹計畫維基百科一樣,是人人看到怪怪的東西,就可以動手修改,甚至不存在的事物也可以直接移除,不需要有較高的權限。而比較需要背景知識的 reverter 則不一定要管理員才能用,有得到社群共識動手都可以。OpenStreetMap 是個參與平等的計劃,比較資深只是參與比較久,不是講話就怎樣,做事比較有資格,只要有理做什麼編輯都是允許的。

Location: 24.187, 119.581

There is a Chinese account that has normalized the KFC tag that its changeset boundary is so big recently, which included Taiwan in it. The changeset boundary is so big that makes QA tools like OSMCha not function as expected, probably Overpass API limitation. The reviewer has to manully review the changeset if there is anything wrong. As a Taiwanese mapper I check if he change something inside the Taiwan boundary, and foundout he does what he said. The mapper stated in his changeset comment said he did not touch KFC in the “Taiwan area”, which in my humble option is not quite necessary.

I will recommend that even though the cause is QA tools problems, that can not check edit in a country if it is problem changeset, might be a good idea to avoid such a big changeset boundary. Split the big changeset into a much smaller, much checkable changeset that lets QA tools like OSMCha to function normally. This could avoid potiental disruption. Heavy mappeers could focus on mapping, not changeset comment discussion.

Even though Taiwan is a small place, there are many hard-working mappers that contribute to OpenStreetMap, following the truth to map stuff that exists in front of them, that can be observed by their own eyes. But sometimes we have to deal with people who do not follow the on-the-ground truth, forcing Taiwanese to accept things not observabe on the ground.

The OpenSteetMap project is just like its sister project Wikipedia, everyone can contribute. So if there is something quite strange, then anyone who spots the strange stuff could edit it and make it alright. And in some extreme cases, you could delete stuff that does not exist. You do not have to have a special privilege to change someone else edit, and in some cases, you have to revert the whole changeset to fix stuff. If you have knowledge of reverter, and support by community members, you could just be a regular account and do the revert. That is no problem at all. OpenStreetMap is a project that everyone is equal, not judged by seniority, anyone who has reason could do things under the rules.

Location: 24.767, 119.866

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最近有一个中國來的口座正規化KFC的標籤,舞的範圍有夠大,編輯變動的範圍猶閣有共臺灣包入去,予一寡QA工具攏無法度正常視覺化顯示變啥物魍,應該是 Overpass API 的限制造成的,愛手工檢查是毋是有真真正正共臺灣範圍的物件創到。伊的編輯留話的所在有特別強調無創「臺灣地區」的 KFC,我是感覺這敢有需要特別強調?

建議是講,雖然 QA 工具出問題,無法度確認是毋是有問題的編輯,雖然是弄一个國家範圍的物件,欲共舞的範圍創較細的,分幾若擺來編輯上傳,較袂引起誤解,嘛較簡單會當審核內容敢有問題。有法度閃避遮的問題,𠢕人嘛會當專心畫𪜶所在的物件,毋免予人感覺有問題愛閣開時間溝通討論。

臺灣雖然是小所在,嘛是有真濟辛辛苦苦拍拚骨力,維護圖資的圖客,足頂真依照事實,猶閣有眼前會當看著的物件來畫地圖。毋過不時有人欲來挑戰加上非事實的物件,強逼臺灣遮的人愛接受非在庄在地草地觀察會著的物仔。這个代誌是無遵守 OpenStreetMap 的現地觀察,才會當加入 OpenStreetMap 的 on the ground truth 原則

OpenStreetMap 親像𪜶的姊妹仔計畫 Wikipedia 仝款,是人人會當看著怪怪的物件,著會使修正,甚至實際上無存在的物仔嘛會當刣掉,毋免有較懸權限的口座來做。甚至較需要了解佮操作智識的 reverter 嘛毋免一定是管理員才會當做,有社群共識一般的口座就會使做。OpenStreetMap 計畫內是較平等的,無講一定欲予較資深的人較有資格,有理就好。

Tâi-lô pán-pún

Tsuè-kūn ū tsi̍t-ê Tiong-kok lâi-ê kháu-tsō chèng-kui-hòa KFC ê piau-tshiam, bú-ê huān-uî ū-kàu-tuā, pian-tsi̍p piàn-tōng ê huān-uî ū kā Tâi-uân pau-ji̍p-khì, hōo tsi̍t-kuá QA kang-kū lóng bô-huat-tōo tsìng-siông sī-kak-huà hián-sī pìnn-siánn-mn̍gh-báng, ing-kai-sī Overpass API ê hān-tsè tsō-sîng-ê, ài tshiú-kang kiám-tsa sī-m̄-sī ū tsin-tsin-tsiànn-tsiànn kā Tâi-uân huān-uî ê mn̍gh-kiānn tshòng-kàu. I-ê pian-tsi̍p lâu-uē ê sóo-tsāi ū ti̍k-pia̍t kiông-tiāu bô-tshòng “Tâi-uân tuē-khu” ê KFC, guá sī kám-kak tsē kám-ū su-iàu ti̍k-pia̍t kiông-tiāu?

Kiàn-gī sī-kóng, sui-jiân QA kang-kū tshut-būn-tê, bô-huat-tōo khak-jīn sī-m̄-sī ū-būn-tê ê pian-tsi̍p, sui-jiân sī lōng tsi̍t-ê kok-ka huān-uî ê mn̍gh-kiānn, bueh kā bú-ê huān-uî tshòng khah-suè–ê, hun kuí-nā-pái lâi pian-tsi̍p siōng-thuân, khah-buē ín-khí gōo-kái, mā khah-kán-tan ē-tàng sím-hi̍k luē-iông kám-ū būn-tê. Ū-huat-tōo siám-phiah tsia-ê būn-tê, gâu-lâng mā ē-tàng tsuan-sim uē in sóo-tsāi ê mn̍gh-kiānn, m̄-bián hőng kám-kak ū-būn-tê ài koh khui-sî-kan koo-thong thó-lūn.

Tâi-uân sui-jiân sī sió-sóo-tsāi, mā-sī 有 tsin-tsuē sin-sin-khóo-khóo phah-piànn kut-la̍t, uî-hōo tôo-tsu ê tôo-kheh, tsiok tíng-tsin i-tsiàu sū-si̍t, iáu-koh-ū gán-tsîng ē-tàng khuànn-tio̍h ê mn̍gh-kiānn lâi uē tuē-tôo. M̄-koh put-sî ū-lâng bueh-lâi thiau-tsiàn ka-siōng hui-sū-si̍t ê mn̍gh-kiānn, kiông-pik Tâi-uân tsia-ê lâng ài tsiap-siū hui tsāi-tsng tsāi-tuē tsháu-tuē kuan-tshat ē-tio̍h ê mn̍gh-á. tsit-ê tāi-tsì sī bô tsun-siú OpenStreetMap ê hiān-tuē kuan-tshat, tsiah ē-tàng ka-ji̍p OpenStreetMap ê on the ground truth guân-tsik.

OpenStreetMap tshin-tshiūnn in-ê tsí-bē-á kè-uē Wikipedia kâng-khuánn, sī jîn-jîn ē-tàng khuànn-tio̍h kuài-kuài ê mn̍gh-kiānn, tio̍h ē-sái siu-tsìng, sīm-tsì si̍t-tsè siōng bô-tsûn-tsāi ê mn̍gh-á mā ē-tàng thâi-tiāu, m̄-bián ū khah-kuân ê kháu-tsō lâi tsuè. Sīm-tsì sī khah su-iàu liáu-kái kah tshau-tsok tì-sik ê reverter mā m̄-bián it-tīng sī kuán-lí-uân tsiah ē-tàng tsuè, ū siā-kûn kiōng-sik it-puann ê kháu-tsō tō ē-sái tsuè. OpenStreetMap kè-uē lāi sī khah pîng-tíng-ê, bô-kóng it-tīng bueh hōo khah tsu-tshim ê lâng khah-ū tsu-keh, ū-lí tō-hó.

Pe̍h-ōe-jī pán-pún

Chòe-kūn ū chi̍t-ê Tiong-kok lâi-ê kháu-chō chèng-kui-hòa KFC ê piau-chhiam, bú-ê hoān-ûi ū-kàu-tōa, pian-chi̍p piàn-tōng ê hoān-ûi ū kā Tâi-oân pau-ji̍p-khì, hō͘ chi̍t-kóa QA kang-kū lóng bô-hoat-tō͘ chèng-siông sī-kak-hòa hián-sī pìⁿ-siáⁿ-mn̍gh-báng, eng-kai-sī Overpass API ê hān-chè chō-sêng-ê, ài chhiú-kang kiám-cha sī-m̄-sī ū chin-chin-chiàⁿ-chiàⁿ kā Tâi-oân hoān-ûi ê mn̍gh-kiāⁿ chhòng-kàu. I-ê pian-chi̍p lâu-ōe ê só͘-chāi ū te̍k-pia̍t kiông-tiāu bô-chhòng “Tâi-oân tōe-khu” ê KFC, góa sī kám-kak chē kám-ū su-iàu te̍k-pia̍t kiông-tiāu?

Kiàn-gī sī-kóng, sui-jiân QA kang-kū chhut-būn-tê, bô-hoat-tō͘ khak-jīn sī-m̄-sī ū-būn-tê ê pian-chi̍p, sui-jiân sī lōng chi̍t-ê kok-ka hoān-ûi ê mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, boeh kā bú-ê hoān-ûi chhòng khah-sòe–ê, hun kúi-nā-pái lâi pian-chi̍p siōng-thoân, khah-bōe ín-khí gō͘-kái, mā khah-kán-tan ē-tàng sím-he̍k lōe-iông kám-ū būn-tê. Ū-hoat-tō͘ siám-phiah chia-ê būn-tê, gâu-lâng mā ē-tàng choan-sim ōe in só͘-chāi ê mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, m̄-bián hőng kám-kak ū-būn-tê ài koh khui-sî-kan ko͘-thong thó-lūn.

Tâi-oân sui-jiân sī sió-só͘-chāi, mā-sī 有 chin-chōe sin-sin-khó͘-khó͘ phah-piàⁿ kut-la̍t, ûi-hō͘ tô͘-chu ê tô͘-kheh, chiok téng-chin i-chiàu sū-si̍t, iáu-koh-ū gán-chêng ē-tàng khòaⁿ-tio̍h ê mn̍gh-kiāⁿ lâi ōe tōe-tô͘. M̄-koh put-sî ū-lâng boeh-lâi thiau-chiàn ka-siōng hui-sū-si̍t ê mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, kiông-pek Tâi-oân chia-ê lâng ài chiap-siū hui chāi-chng chāi-tōe chháu-tōe koan-chhat ē-tio̍h ê mn̍gh-á. chit-ê tāi-chì sī bô chun-siú OpenStreetMap ê hiān-tōe koan-chhat, chiah ē-tàng ka-ji̍p OpenStreetMap ê on the ground truth goân-chek.

OpenStreetMap chhin-chhiūⁿ in-ê chí-bē-á kè-ōe Wikipedia kâng-khóaⁿ, sī jîn-jîn ē-tàng khòaⁿ-tio̍h koài-koài ê mn̍gh-kiāⁿ, tio̍h ē-sái siu-chèng, sīm-chì si̍t-chè siōng bô-chûn-chāi ê mn̍gh-á mā ē-tàng thâi-tiāu, m̄-bián ū khah-koân ê kháu-chō lâi chòe. Sīm-chì sī khah su-iàu liáu-kái kah chhau-chok tì-sek ê reverter mā m̄-bián it-tēng sī koán-lí-oân chiah ē-tàng chòe, ū siā-kûn kiōng-sek it-poaⁿ ê kháu-chō tō ē-sái chòe. OpenStreetMap kè-ōe lāi sī khah pêng-téng-ê, bô-kóng it-tēng boeh hō͘ khah chu-chhim ê lâng khah-ū chu-keh, ū-lí tō-hó.

Location: 24.447, 119.839

中國那邊有人在日記抱怨有大量學生畫中南大學一帶,看起來是老師要求學生畫學校附近,但由於缺少 QA 程序,因此產生不少問題資料無人處理。這種事情早晚都需要面對,需要動員社群成員去修正,或是決定資料實在是太差了,通通砍掉處理。極端嚴重的情形可以找 Data Working Group 協助,將溝通無效的帳號封一段時間,給予社群時間來修正。

臺灣這邊的經驗則告訴我們,要與顯然是做老師指定的作業學生溝通,用變更集留言,大都是沒什麼回應的。社群有時間就直接介入修正就好,再來研究他們學生是從那裡來的。如果沒時間也不想幫人修正,那就通通刪掉就好,必要時再請 Data Working Group 處理,能夠暫時封掉沒有回應的帳號,暫緩不讓問題擴大。

我還記得臺灣這邊遇過最嚴重的事情是美光團,他們用 HOT Task Manager 畫彰化、雲林一帶的建築,最後實在產生太多問題建築,已經超出社群能修正的程度,與 Data Working Group 談好就把他們產生的資料通通刪除。

其他遇到的問題編輯團體還有彰化學校的編輯團,一直到現在都還不知道是那間學校的學生所為。還有一個加心理醫療場所的人,也是有問題,因為八成他的經緯度是從 Google 地圖用 Geo-coding 產生的,資料授權是有問題的。

OSM Wiki 有組織編輯指引,當有團體計劃有大量成員編輯時,就要在 Wiki 頁面登記,要留帶頭的聯絡人資料,畫地圖的目的,以及持續的時間。臺灣環境資訊協會的飲水地圖計畫就有留資料登記。組織編輯指引是 OpenStreetMap 生態系相當重要的指引,也能看其他團體的範例,是怎麼登記他們計劃做的事情。

對於社群來說,找到帶頭者,跟老師能夠好好溝通,老師得知道 OpenStreetMap 是不少重要網站依賴的圖資,學生投入貢獻需要認真,不能隨意增添地圖資料。對於剛接觸 OpenStreetMap 的學生來說,先讓他們畫簡單的東西,例如學校、住家附近的店家,別一下子給學生太過複雜,範圍太大的事務。

再來中國的環境其實不允許一般人來畫地圖,個人畫地圖是違反中國的法律。找到地圖團的帶頭者,然後在組織編輯頁面登記,好像那裡怪怪的,並不是好的處理方式。另外學生帳號用真實姓名的問題,在中國的網路環境下,還是用代號,別輕易曝光真實姓名比較好。

Location: 岳麓街道, 岳麓区, 长沙市, 湖南省, 410012, 中国

China mappers complain about there are many students mapping around Zhongnan University, which seems assigned by school teachers, but lack of QA process after students had done their mapping tasks. These kinds of issues are faced by the community someday, whatever the community decides to fix it, or just remove the low-quality stuff, it is all OK. And in an extreme case, the community could ask the Data Working Group for help, by banning accounts that keep editing and adding low-quality data, getting some precious time for the community members to fix the data.

As a Taiwanese mapper, Taiwan experience of dealing with school assigned tasks from teachers, leaving changeset comments are quite useless, few will response to the comments. Directly fixing the error or low-quality data is faster, and reseach where do these change come from? If you do not want to spend your time of fixing error or improving the data quality, then just delete the stuff is OK. If the damage so big and no response from the mapper, can’t be handle by community, then the Data Working Group can step in and no further damage.

Recenlty most serve incident in Taiwan is Micron editing group. They use HOT Task Manager to draw buildings in Changhua and Yunlin. They drew so many problem buildings, that can’t be handle by the community, so the HOT ask Data Working Group to step in and delete all the buildings by Micron editng group.

Another incidents like editing group from shcool of Changhua, which one could not trace which school they belong to. And another incident like some mappers adding psychological medical clinic, which using coordinate geocoding by Google Maps, there is a data license issue.

There is an Organized Editing Guideline on OSM Wiki, which means for the best practice, when a organized want to edit OSM, they have to register on the Wiki page, filling the contact person name, email, what do you want to map, how long will the project go. Organized Editing Guideline is guide for organization who want to edit stuffs in OpenStreetMap eco-system, every organization should follow, and could look at other organization’s examples.

The good way a handling editing group lead by school teachers is get in touch with the teacher, and let the teacher know about the importance of OpenStreetMap that is used by many important website around the world. So the involved students shold do job well, avoid just simple let students trace building outlines without guiding. We recommond while students are new to OpenStreetMap, they can draw some simple stuff, like adding POI around their school or their home. We will not recommond drawing complex stuff, or drawing stuffs in a huge area.

Another issue is China authorities not allowing ordinary people to make map in the current China circumstance. It is against their law to making map by indivual people. So it might not be a good idea for the teacher to register on the Organizated Editing Guideline page. For the student we recommond that not using the real world name to register online service including OpenStreerMap.

Location: 中南大学高家坪小区, Yuelu, Yuelu District, Changsha, Hunan, China

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中國遐有人寫日記哼(hainn)有大量學生佇中南大學畫地圖,看起來是老師按學生畫學校附近,但是缺少 QA 的程序,予袂少有問題的資料無人插。這是早慢欲面對的問題,社群愛動員去修理,抑是畫甲傷䆀做理由攏刣刣掉矣。嘛會使揣 Data Working Group 協助,共講袂聽的口座封一寡時間,予社群成員有時間清理佮修正。

臺灣遮的經驗是,共一寡看起來是學生做學校指定作業的口座溝通,用變更集留話,通常是無回應的。對社群來講有時間就直接修改好勢,閣來研究𪜶是對佗位來的。無想欲改就攏總刣掉嘛無要緊,必要時予 Data Working Group 處理,處理無回應閣繼續編織的口座,至少無予問題擴大。

會記得臺灣遮上嚴重的底代是美光團,用 HOT Task Manager 佇咧畫彰化,雲林遐的建築,最後因為問題建築傷濟矣,無法度修改好勢,予 Data Working Group 資料攏刣刣掉。

其他的代猶閣有彰化遐學校學生的編輯團,一直毋知是佗位的學校咧畫。猶有人加上心理醫療場所的POI,嘛是有一寡問題,因為應該是共地址用 Google 轉成經維度,資料的授權有淡薄仔問題。

OSM Wiki有組織編輯指引,有團體愛編輯,著愛登記佇 Wiki 頁面,愛留𤆬頭的人聯絡資料,目的,佮時間。臺灣環境資訊協會的啉水地圖計畫就有留資料登記。組織編輯指引應該是 OpenStreetMap 生態系內底,會當參考佮遵守的指引,嘛會當參考別人是按怎處理的。

上好是揣著頭,共老師好好矣溝通,老師愛知影 OpenStreetMap 予袂少重要的網站使用,學生貢獻是愛頂真,袂使清彩處理。通常予學生畫較簡單的事物,親像講學校,徛家附近的店家,莫予學生畫傷複雜,傷大的範圍。

又閣有中國的環境無允准一般人來畫地圖,個人畫地圖是違反𪜶的法律。愛揣到頭人佇Orgaizated Editing Guideline頁面登記,感覺毋是傷好的處理方式。另外學生個人號口座用真實姓名抑是問題。佇中國的網路環境,線頂的口座號一个代號較好,莫用真實姓名號口座的名號是較好的做法。

Tâi-lô-pán

Tiong-kok hiah ū-lâng siā ji̍t-kì hainn ū tuā-liōng ha̍k-sing tī Tiong-lâm Tāi-ha̍k uē tuē-tôo, khuànn-khí-lâi sī lāu-su àn ha̍k-sing uē ha̍k-hāu hù-kūn. Tse-sī siā-kûn tsá-bān bueh bīn-tuì ê būn-tê, siā-kûn ài tóng-guân khì siu-lí, ia̍h-sī uē kah siunn-bái tsuè-lí-iû lóng thài-thài-tiāu ah. Mā ē-sái tshē Data Working Group hia̍p-tsōo, kā kóng-buē-thiann ê kháu-tsō hong tsi̍t-kuá sî-kan, hōo siā-kûn sîng-guân ū sî-kan tshing-lí kah siu-tsìng.

Tâi-uân tsia ê king-giām sī, kā tsi̍t-kuá khuànn-khí-lâi sī ha̍k-sing tsuè ha̍k-hāu tsí-tīng tsok-gia̍p ê kháu-tsō kau-thong, iōng piàn-king-tsi̍p liû-uē, thong-siông sī bô huê-ìng ê. Ū-sî-kan tō ti̍t-tsiap siu-kái hó-sè, koh-lâi gián-kiù in tuì tó-uī lâi ê. Bô siūnn bueh kái tō lóng thâi-tiāu mā bô iàu-kín, pit-iàu sī hōo Data Working Group tshú-lí, tshú-lí bô huê-ìng koh kè-sio̍k pian-tsi̍p ê kháu-tsō, tsì-tsió bô hōo būn-tê khok-tāi.

Ē-kì-tit Tâi-uân tsia siōng-giâm-tiōng ê tāi sī Bí-kong-thuân, iōng HOT Task Mager tī-teh uē Tsiong-huà, Hûn-lîm tsia-ê kiàn-tio̍k, tsuè-āu in-uī būn-tê kiàn-tio̍k siūnn-tsuē ah, bô-huat-tōo siu-kái hó-sè, hōo Data Working Group tsu-liāu lóng thâi-thâi-tiāu.

Kî-thá ê tāi-tsì iáu-koh-ū Tsiong-huà hia ha̍k-hāu ha̍k-sing ê pian-tsit-thuân, it-ti̍t m̄-tsai sī tuì tó-uī lâi ê ha̍k-hāu teh uē. Iáu-ū-lâng ka-siōng tsuân Tâi-uân ê sim-lí i-liâu tiûnn-sóo ê, m̄-sī ū-būn-tê, in-uī ing-kai sī kā tuē-tsí iōng Google tuē-tôo tsuân-sîng kíng-uī-tōo, tsu-liāu ê siū-khuân ū tām-po̍h-á būn-tê.

OSM Wiki ū tsoo-tsit pian-tsi̍p tsí-ín ê ia̍h-bīn, ū thuân-thé ài pian-tsi̍p tsìn-tsîng, tō ài tīng-kî tī Wiki ia̍h-bīn, ài lâu tshuā-thâu ê lâng liân-lo̍k tsu-liāu, bo̍k-tik, kah sî-kan. Tâi-uân Khuân-kíng Tsū-sìn Hia̍p-huē ê Lim-tsuí Tuē-tôo Kè-uē tō-ū lâu tsu-liāu tīng-kî. Tsoo-tsit pian-tsi̍p tsí-ín ing-kai sī OpenStreetMap sing-thài-hē lāi-tué, ē-tàng tsham-khó kah tsun-siú ê tsí-ín, mā ē-tàng tsham-khó pa̍t-lâng sī án-tsuánn tshú-lí ê.

Siōng-hó sī tshē-tio̍h thâu, lāu-su ài tsai-iánn buē-tsio tiōng-iàu ê bāng-tsām sú-iōng, ha̍k-sing kòng-hiàn ài tíng-tsin, buē-sái tshìng-tshái tshú-lí, thong-siông ài hōo ha̍k-sing uē khah kán-tan ê mngh-kái, tshin-tshiūnn kóng ha̍k-hāu, khiā-ke hù-kūn ê tiàm-ke, mài-hōo ha̍k-sing uē siūnn ho̍k-tsa̍p, siūnn tuā ê huān-uî.

Iū-koh ū Tiong-kok ê khuân-kíng bô-ún-tsún it-puann-lâng lâi uē tuē-tôo, kò-jîn uē tuē-tôo sī uî-huán in-ê huat-lu̍t. ài tshē kàu thâu-lâng tī Organized Editing ia̍h-bīn tīng-kî, kám-kak m̄-sī siūnn-hó ê tshú-lí hong-sik. Līng-guā ha̍k-sing kò-jîn hō kháu-tsō īng tsin-si̍t sìnn-miâ ia̍h-sī būn-tê. tī Tiong-kok ê bāng-lōo khuân-kíng, suànn-tíng ê kháu-tsō hō tsi̍t-ê tāi-hō khah-hó, mài-iōng tsin-si̍t sìnn-miâ hō kháu-tsō ê miâ-hō sī khah-hó ê tsuè-huat.

Pe̍h-ōe-jī pán-pún

Tiong-kok hiah ū-lâng siā ji̍t-kì haiⁿ ū tōa-liōng ha̍k-seng tī Tiong-lâm Tāi-ha̍k ōe tōe-tô͘, khòaⁿ-khí-lâi sī lāu-su àn ha̍k-seng ōe ha̍k-hāu hù-kūn. Che-sī siā-kûn chá-bān boeh bīn-tùi ê būn-tê, siā-kûn ài tóng-goân khì siu-lí, ia̍h-sī ōe kah siuⁿ-bái chòe-lí-iû lóng thài-thài-tiāu ah. Mā ē-sái chhē Data Working Group hia̍p-chō͘, kā kóng-bōe-thiaⁿ ê kháu-chō hong chi̍t-kóa sî-kan, hō͘ siā-kûn sêng-goân ū sî-kan chheng-lí kah siu-chèng.

Tâi-oân chia ê keng-giām sī, kā chi̍t-kóa khòaⁿ-khí-lâi sī ha̍k-seng chòe ha̍k-hāu chí-tēng chok-gia̍p ê kháu-chō kau-thong, iōng piàn-keng-chi̍p liû-ōe, thong-siông sī bô hôe-èng ê. Ū-sî-kan tō ti̍t-chiap siu-kái hó-sè, koh-lâi gián-kiù in tùi tó-ūi lâi ê. Bô siūⁿ boeh kái tō lóng thâi-tiāu mā bô iàu-kín, pit-iàu sī hō͘ Data Working Group chhú-lí, chhú-lí bô hôe-èng koh kè-sio̍k pian-chi̍p ê kháu-chō, chì-chió bô hō͘ būn-tê khok-tāi.

Ē-kì-tit Tâi-oân chia siōng-giâm-tiōng ê tāi sī Bí-kong-thoân, iōng HOT Task Mager tī-teh ōe Chiong-hòa, Hûn-lîm chia-ê kiàn-tio̍k, chòe-āu in-ūi būn-tê kiàn-tio̍k siūⁿ-chōe ah, bô-hoat-tō͘ siu-kái hó-sè, hō͘ Data Working Group chu-liāu lóng thâi-thâi-tiāu.

Kî-thá ê tāi-chì iáu-koh-ū Chiong-hòa hia ha̍k-hāu ha̍k-seng ê pian-chit-thoân, it-ti̍t m̄-chai sī tùi tó-ūi lâi ê ha̍k-hāu teh ōe. Iáu-ū-lâng ka-siōng choân Tâi-oân ê sim-lí i-liâu tiûⁿ-só͘ ê, m̄-sī ū-būn-tê, in-ūi eng-kai sī kā tōe-chí iōng Google tōe-tô͘ choân-sêng kéng-ūi-tō͘, chu-liāu ê siū-khoân ū tām-po̍h-á būn-tê.

OSM Wiki ū cho͘-chit pian-chi̍p chí-ín ê ia̍h-bīn, ū thoân-thé ài pian-chi̍p chìn-chêng, tō ài tēng-kî tī Wiki ia̍h-bīn, ài lâu chhōa-thâu ê lâng liân-lo̍k chu-liāu, bo̍k-tek, kah sî-kan. Tâi-oân Khoân-kéng Chū-sìn Hia̍p-hōe ê Lim-chúi Tōe-tô͘ Kè-ōe tō-ū lâu chu-liāu tēng-kî. Cho͘-chit pian-chi̍p chí-ín eng-kai sī OpenStreetMap seng-thài-hē lāi-tóe, ē-tàng chham-khó kah chun-siú ê chí-ín, mā ē-tàng chham-khó pa̍t-lâng sī án-chóaⁿ chhú-lí ê.

Siōng-hó sī chhē-tio̍h thâu, lāu-su ài chai-iáⁿ bōe-chio tiōng-iàu ê bāng-chām sú-iōng, ha̍k-seng kòng-hiàn ài téng-chin, bōe-sái chhèng-chhái chhú-lí, thong-siông ài hō͘ ha̍k-seng ōe khah kán-tan ê mngh-kái, chhin-chhiūⁿ kóng ha̍k-hāu, khiā-ke hù-kūn ê tiàm-ke, mài-hō͘ ha̍k-seng ōe siūⁿ ho̍k-cha̍p, siūⁿ tōa ê hoān-ûi.

Iū-koh ū Tiong-kok ê khoân-kéng bô-ún-chún it-poaⁿ-lâng lâi ōe tōe-tô͘, kò-jîn ōe tōe-tô͘ sī ûi-hoán in-ê hoat-lu̍t. ài chhē kàu thâu-lâng tī Organized Editing ia̍h-bīn tēng-kî, kám-kak m̄-sī siūⁿ-hó ê chhú-lí hong-sek. Lēng-gōa ha̍k-seng kò-jîn hō kháu-chō ēng chin-si̍t sìⁿ-miâ ia̍h-sī būn-tê. tī Tiong-kok ê bāng-lō͘ khoân-kéng, sòaⁿ-téng ê kháu-chō hō chi̍t-ê tāi-hō khah-hó, mài-iōng chin-si̍t sìⁿ-miâ hō kháu-chō ê miâ-hō sī khah-hó ê chòe-hoat.

Location: 后湖小区, 岳麓街道, 岳麓区, 长沙市, 湖南省, 中国

漢字的版本

最近毋知是按怎,近期的 zh-CN 日記出現誠濟篇指控 OpenStreetMap 無遵守中國的法律,竟然共台灣標示是獨立的國家。

臺灣人看著這款指控真無爽快,不而過猶是有精神來回應,是講 OpenStreetMap 的政策、運作方式佮精神,特別是爭議領土欲按怎處理的方式。

Pe̍h-ōe-jī ê pán-pún

Chòe-kūn m̄-chai sī án-chóaⁿ, kūn-kî ê zh-CN ê ji̍t-kì chhut-hiān chiâⁿ-chōe phiⁿ chí-khòng OpenStreetMap bô chun-siú Tiong-kok ê hoat-lu̍t, kèng-jiân kā Tâi-oân piau-sī sī to̍k-li̍p ê kok-ka.

Tâi-oân-lâng khòaⁿ-tio̍h chit-khoán ê chí-khòng chin-bô sóng-khoài, put-lî-kò iáu-sī ū-cheng-sîn lâi hê-èng, sī-kóng OpenStreetMap ê chèng-chhek, ūn-chok hong-sek kah cheng-sîn, tek-pia̍t sī cheng-gī léng-thó͘ boeh án-chóaⁿ chhú-lí ê hong-sek.

Tâi-lô ê pán-pún

Tsuè-kūn m̄-tsai sī án-tsuánn, kûn-ki ê zh-CN ê ji̍t-kì tshut-hiān tsiânn-tsuē phinn tsí-khòng OpenStreetMap bô tsun-siú Tiong-kok ê huat-lu̍t, kìng-jiân kā Tâi-uân piáu-sī sī to̍k-li̍p ê kok-ka.

Tâi-uân-lâng khuànn-tio̍h tsit-khuán ê tsí-khòng tsin-bô sóng-khuài, put-jî-kò iáu-sī ū tsing-sîn lâi hê-ìng, sī-kóng OpenStreetMap ê tsìng-tshik, ūn-tsok hong-sik kah tsing-sîn, ti̍k-pia̍t sī tsing-gī líng-thóo bueh án-tsuánn tshú-lí ê hong-sik.

Location: 天峻县, 海西蒙古族藏族自治州, 青海省, 中国

Pe̍h-ōe-jī Pán-pún

Tâi-oân chhun-lí ê chu-liāu in-ūi Wikidata siā-kûn chhú-lí hōe-ji̍p ê sî-chūn, the̍h Chú-kè-chhù 2017-nî ê chu-liāu lâi hōe-ji̍p, chō-sêng 2018-nî sin-tiâu-chèng ê chhun-lí, chhin-chhiūⁿ sī Tâi-lâm-chhī hêng-chèng-khu tōa-chéng-pèng, iáu-koh-ū in-ūi jîn-kháu chōe só͘-í hun-thiah ê lí, pēng bô sin-cheng kàu Wikidata téng-koân. Che tō chō-sêng tī OpenStreetMap chit-pêng ū chhun-lí koan-hē tùi-èng bōe-tio̍h Wikidata ê chōng-hóng.

kóng-tio̍h OpenStreetMap chit-pêng, tong-chho͘ Chìn-hoân sī ēng Lōe-chèng-pō͘ Kok-thó͘ Chhek-hōe Tiong-sim sek-hòng ê shape tóng-àn, lâi chhú-lí tùi-èng Hō͘-e̍k-chèng Hē-thóng Tāi-bé, iáu-koh-ū āu-sio̍k tùi-èng Wikidata sî, chhái-iōng pí-kàu sin jî-chhiáⁿ keng-sin khah kín ê chu-liāu, in-chhú tī OpenStreetMap chia kan-ta chha 一个 2021-nî 2-ge̍h chhoe-it sêng-li̍p ê lí, sī tī-teh Hûn-lîm-koān Táu-la̍k-chhī ê Chèng-sim-lí, só͘-í būn-tê bô-tōa, sin-cheng-ka koan-hē tō ē-sái lah.

Hôe kàu Wikidata chit-pêng, 2019-nî khai-sí ū-chi̍t-kóa Wikidata ê chham-ú-chiá khai-sí hōe-ji̍p chhun-lí, siông-sòe khòaⁿ chhun-lí hāng-bo̍k ka ê chham-khó-chu-liāu, sī ēng Chú-kè-chhù ê chhun-lí tùi-èng Hō͘-e̍k-chèng hē-thóng tāi-bé ê tóng-àn. Chú-kè-chhù ê tóng-àn kan-ta keng-sin kàu 2017-nî 1-ge̍h 31-hō, í-āu tō bô keng-sin lah, ti̍t-chiap iōng Lōe-chèng-pō͘ ê Hō͘-e̍k-chèng hē-thóng tāi-bé. Chin-chōe-lâng chōe chhun-lí hōe-ji̍p ê sî-chūn iōng-tio̍h kū ê chu-liāu, chō-sêng āu-lâi sin-cheng-ka ê chhun-lí pēng bô hōe-ji̍p kàu Wikidata téng-koân, kè-kiong ū 75-ê sin-cheng-ka ê chhun-lí, pēng-bô siu-lio̍k kàu Wikidata.

Wikidata chit-pêng chòe hōe-ji̍p ê lâng, 2020-nî lōng chhun-lí, mā bô-chù-ì tio̍h hit-sî-chūn ū chi̍t-kóa chhun-lí í-keng chéng-pèng siau-sit leh, m̄-koh in-ūi chhái-iōng chú-kè-chhù kū-ê chu-liāu só͘-í bô-hoat-tō͘ hoat-kak kàu būn-tê. Lán mā ē-tàng khòaⁿ-tio̍h chia-ê hōe-ji̍p chhun-lí hāng-bo̍k khiàm-chió Eng-bûn ê chōng-hóng.

In-chhú ū nn̄g-kiāⁿ tāi-chì boeh chòe, tē-it-kiāⁿ tāi-chì sī boeh kā Wikidata téng-koân khiàm-chió ê pó͘-chiok, lēng chi̍t-ê sī kā chéng-pèng ê chhun-lí, tī-teh Wikidata piáu-sī chéng-pèng ê ji̍t-chí, OpenStreetMap siā-kûn chiah ē-tàng kā chia-ê bô Wikidata liân-kiat ê chhun-lí koan-hē ka-siōng Wikidata liân-kiat.

Bī-lâi iáu-koh-ū Pîn-tong-chhī kah Tang-káng-tìn ê sin-cheng-ka ê lí, khòaⁿ-khí-lâi ē hun-phòe kàu sin-ê Hō͘-e̍k-chèng hē-thóng tāi-bé, OpenStreetMap sī boeh hoán-èng chek-sî chōng-hóng, OpenStreetMap sī ē-tàng ū-sian pian-chi̍p ū-tēng sin-cheng-ka ê lí. Bo̍k-chêng sian iōng hackmd choān-siá Tâi-oân Chhun-lí Chéng-lí (2021), hia̍p-tông OpenStreetMap kah Wikidata Tâi-oân hiān-chú-sî boeh-chòe ê tāi-chì.

Tâi-lô pán-pún

Tâi-uân tshun-lí ê tsu-liāu in-uī Wikidata siā-kûn tshú-lí huē-ji̍p ê sî-tsūn, the̍h Tsú-kè-tshù 2017-nî ê tsu-liāu lâi huē-ji̍p, tsō-sîng 2018-nî sin-tiâu-tsìng ê tshun-lí, tshin-tshiūnn sī Tâi-lâm-tshī hîng-tsìng-khu tuā-tsíng-pìng, iáu-koh-ū in-uī jîn-kháu tsuē sóo-í hun-thiah ê lí, pīng bô sin-tsing kàu Wikidata tíng-kuân. Tse tō tsō-sîng tī OpenStreetMap tsit-pîng ū tshun-lí kuan-hē tuì-ìng buē-tio̍h Wikidata ê tsōng-hóng.

kóng-tio̍h OpenStreetMap tsit-pîng, tong-tshoo Tsìn-huân sī īng Luē-tsìng-pōo Kok-thóo Tshik-huē Tiong-sim sik-hòng ê shape tóng-àn, lâi tshú-lí tuì-ìng Hōo-i̍k-tsìng Hē-thóng Tāi-bé, iáu-koh-ū āu-sio̍k tuì-ìng Wikidata sî, tshái-iōng pí-kàu sin jî-tshiánn king-sin khah kín ê tsu-liāu, in-tshú tī OpenStreetMap tsia kan-ta tsha 一个 2021-nî 2-ge̍h tshue-it sîng-li̍p ê lí, sī tī-teh Hûn-lîm-kuān Táu-la̍k-tshī ê Tsìng-sim-lí, sóo-í būn-tê bô-tuā, sin-tsing-ka kuan-hē tō ē-sái lah.

Huê kàu Wikidata tsit-pîng, 2019-nî khai-sí ū-tsi̍t-kuá Wikidata ê tsham-ú-tsiá khai-sí huē-ji̍p tshun-lí, siông-suè khuànn tshun-lí hāng-bo̍k ka ê tsham-khó-tsu-liāu, sī īng Tsú-kè-tshù ê tshun-lí tuì-ìng Hōo-i̍k-tsìng hē-thóng tāi-bé ê tóng-àn. Tsú-kè-tshù ê tóng-àn kan-ta king-sin kàu 2017-nî 1-ge̍h 31-hō, í-āu tō bô king-sin lah, ti̍t-tsiap iōng Luē-tsìng-pōo ê Hōo-i̍k-tsìng hē-thóng tāi-bé. Tsin-tsuē-lâng tsuē tshun-lí huē-ji̍p ê sî-tsūn iōng-tio̍h kū ê tsu-liāu, tsō-sîng āu-lâi sin-tsing-ka ê tshun-lí pīng bô huē-ji̍p kàu Wikidata tíng-kuân, kè-kiong ū 75-ê sin-tsing-ka ê tshun-lí, pīng-bô siu-lio̍k kàu Wikidata.

Wikidata tsit-pîng tsuè huē-ji̍p ê lâng, 2020-nî lōng tshun-lí, mā bô-tsù-ì tio̍h hit-sî-tsūn ū tsi̍t-kuá tshun-lí í-king tsíng-pìng siau-sit leh, m̄-koh in-uī tshái-iōng tsú-kè-tshù kū-ê tsu-liāu sóo-í bô-huat-tōo huat-kak kàu būn-tê. Lán mā ē-tàng khuànn-tio̍h tsia-ê huē-ji̍p tshun-lí hāng-bo̍k khiàm-tsió Ing-bûn ê tsōng-hóng.

In-tshú ū nn̄g-kiānn tāi-tsì bueh tsuè, tē-it-kiānn tāi-tsì sī bueh kā Wikidata tíng-kuân khiàm-tsió ê póo-tsiok, līng tsi̍t-ê sī kā tsíng-pìng ê tshun-lí, tī-teh Wikidata piáu-sī tsíng-pìng ê ji̍t-tsí, OpenStreetMap siā-kûn tsiah ē-tàng kā tsia-ê bô Wikidata liân-kiat ê tshun-lí kuan-hē ka-siōng Wikidata liân-kiat.

Bī-lâi iáu-koh-ū Pîn-tong-tshī kah Tang-káng-tìn ê sin-tsing-ka ê lí, khuànn-khí-lâi ē hun-phuè kàu sin-ê Hōo-i̍k-tsìng hē-thóng tāi-bé, OpenStreetMap sī bueh huán-ìng tsik-sî tsōng-hóng, OpenStreetMap sī ē-tàng ū-sian pian-tsi̍p ū-tīng sin-tsing-ka ê lí. Bo̍k-tsîng sian iōng hackmd tsuān-siá Tâi-uân Tshun-lí Tsíng-lí (2021), hia̍p-tông OpenStreetMap kah Wikidata Tâi-uân hiān-tsú-sî bueh-tsuè ê tāi-tsì.

漢字版本

台灣村里的資料因為Wikidata社群處理上傳匯入的時陣,拿主計處2017年資料來匯入,造成2018年新調整的村里,親像是台南市里行政區大整併,猶閣有一寡因為人口濟所以分拆的里,並無新增到Wikidata頂懸。這就造成佇OpenStreetMap這爿有村里關係對應袂著Wikidata。

講到OpenStreetMap這爿,當初晉帆是用內政部國土測繪中心釋出的shape檔案,來處理對應戶役政系統代碼,猶閣後續對應Wikidata,採用比較新而且更新較緊的資料,因此佇OpenStreetMap只有差一個2021 02/01成立的里,是佇雲林縣斗六市正心里,所以問題無大,新增關係就會使啦。

回到Wikidata這爿,2019年開始有一寡Wikidata的參與者開始匯入村里,詳細看村里項目加的參考資料,是用主計處的村里對應戶役政系統代碼的檔案。主計處檔案干焦更新到2017-01/31,以後就無更新啦,直接用內政部的戶役政系統代碼。真濟人做村里匯入用著舊資料,造成後來新增的村里並無匯入到Wikidata頂懸,計共有75个新增的村里,並無收錄到Wikidata。

Wikidata這爿做匯入的人,2020年弄村里,紲有不少村里彼時陣早已經整併消失咧,毋過因為採用主計處檔案無法度察覺到問題。主計處檔案猶閣無英文名稱,我們嘛會當看著遮的匯入村里項目看著欠少英文標籤的狀況。

因此有兩件代誌欲做,第一件代誌是欲共Wikidata頂懸欠少的補足,另一个是共整併的村里,佇Wikidata標示整併的日期。佇咧第一件代誌紲了後,OpenStreetMap社群才會當共遮的沒有Wikidata連結的村里關係加Wikidata連結。

未來猶閣有屏東市佮東港鎮的新增的里,看起來會分配到新的戶役政系統代碼,OpenStreetMap是欲反映即時狀況,需要等到成立的那天才會使編輯更新,不而過Wikidata紲毋是,是會當預先編輯預定新增的里。目前先用hackmd撰寫台灣村里整理 (2021),協同OpenStreetMap佮Wikidata台灣社群現此時做的代誌。

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