OpenStreetMap

Help needed please

Posted by SamanthaWilkinson on 19 March 2010 in English.

Hello,

We are students in Manchester mapping surveillance and security in an area of Fallowfield as part of a University piece of coursework.

The equipment we have been given is: Garmin GPS 60

We went out and plotted way points for speed cameras and CCTV cameras, we then tagged the sites on JOSM. However, we can't upload the points onto OSM - it says 'pending' yet then keeps sending us 'failure' e-mails. We have tried to do so on different accounts and different computers. Is there anything else we may have overlooked that is causing the problem?

Thank you very much in advance,
Sam

Discussion

Comment from IainMaclean on 19 March 2010 at 19:19

What did it say on the failure mail ?

Also have you had a look at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/GPX_Import_Failures

Comment from ColinMarquardt on 19 March 2010 at 19:36

Did you maybe "Save" the track? If so, don't, use the track from the Micro SD card as-is.

Comment from amm on 19 March 2010 at 19:39

I am not entirely sure what you are doing, but I don't think you can upload GPX waypoints to OSM, only GPX tracks. What you will have to do is load your GPX with the waypoints into JOSM and then create OSM nodes where the waypoints are, with appropriate surveillance taggs ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:Surveillance ) You can then upload those to OSM.

Comment from 42429 on 19 March 2010 at 19:57

Dear Sam,

there are three different types of GPX tracks: waypoints, route and track.

OSM accepts my GPX points whenever I decide to upload them as "track" with "trackpoints". The website also enables to upload GPX tracks (tracks > own tracks > upload) quite easily. Try to upload a small and simple GPS track first in order to check how it works - you may always delete your own tracks.

Furthermore, GPX tracks and OSM data are different LAYERS. You should try to upload the activated DATA layer instead of the activated GPX layer.

If you are just fed up with GPX tracks, try to upload a bus stop, a postbox, a pub or a traffic light first in order to become familiar with JOSM. Doing small edits first increases your confidence.

Yours, FK270673

Comment from Fabi2 on 19 March 2010 at 20:13

If the DirectUpload did not work for you, you can uplaod the you gpx-files via the OSM-website. If you use OAuth and DirectUpload, the this is a know bug (see http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/4498).

Comment from Anna_AG on 20 March 2010 at 21:38

Sam

You need to download all your GPS 60 data. In a Garmin there are two sets of data stored, the track , and the Waypoints, and these do differ.

The Garmin stores the track you walked in two places simultaneously usually, in the internal memory ( limited to 10000 points ) and the SD card which is unlimited in tracklength

The Garmin records the Waypoints in internal memory.

I would normally download my TRACK from the SD card, and the waypoints are only stored on the Internal memory.

To download the track, put the Garmin into USB mode, and it will appear on a computer as a removable disk drive, the track should be there listed by date as a GPX file

To download the Waypoints you must use a program such as GPSbabel ( http://www.gpsbabel.org/downloaded.html ) which will download all waypoints ( and any tracks stored on the internal memory ) as a GPX file

Both the TRACK.GPX file direct from the Garmin and WAYPOINT.GPX file downloaded from the Garmin using GPSBabel can now be dragged and dropped into the JOSM window.

You should now have cluster of points and tracks which will not look like much, you need to zoom into the cluster of points and download the current map from OSM, so that you can overlay new points onto it ( ie your cameras, marked on the map on your JOSM screen by waypoints)

Now you must create map POINTS, which you would tag as cameras etc, and upload these new points of interest to OSM.

The Waypoints are not added to the map, only the POINTS that you create in JOSM are added to the map with the tags that you have added to the points ( ie the properties of the points ).

If you have more questions email me

Bri

Comment from Zartbitter on 22 March 2010 at 09:09

Hi,

if you "save" a track on your Garmin device all the timestamp data is thrown away. If you try to upload the track to OSM the track will be rejected because of the missing timestamp information.
Just transfer the "unsaved" active log to yoour computer and upload it to OSM.

Z

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