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I decided to continue trying to use JOSM for this area. I added details around the Narraguinnep Fort Historical Site, which was not simple. To add a point, I sit there in add mode and only click once so it doesn’t become a line? Hopefully that is so because that’s what I did. Then tracking down appropriate tags ended up meaning doing the same thing in iD, so not exactly a good use of time.

I continued on to details of the road around the Benchmark lookout. The track type changes halfway along. It’s nearly the boundary of the USGS map quads, so easy to miss, but they actually marked it. The road stops being improved dirt and becomes high clearance right in the middle. I did manage to figure out from JOSM how to mark that. In fact, now things are getting marked with tracktype. Smoothness was always presented, but maybe not as clear.

I decided to continue on with roads. The Forest Service marks various around the area as primary (trapezoid with an extra line markers on the map, maintained to passenger car standards) and secondary (horizontal numbers in a rectangle, should be to passenger car standards) and as 4x4 (vertical numbers in a rectangle, get the truck or even ATV). So how should one apply them? And why are they all marked as county roads, sometimes with segments with alternating numbers? None of it makes sense. I added some and lengthened some and adjusted some as I could see so their routes are all matching reality a bit better.

Then I decided the manual water pump at Bradfield Campground should be shown. While I was at it, it would be nice if the day use and campground areas were clearly marked, so I started in on doing some shapes. Just click around until back where you started? Hopefully that’s right. It seemed to have the expected result. There’s a handicapped site, so add that somewhat. I added the table, which is covered and handicapped accessible. There’s a toilet that is also that is nearby. Another toilet between the areas. Other picnic tables that are covered. I sorted out where to find the tagging presets better. Getting all those dots marked was still a very annoying process.

I finally got JOSM to actually take me to errors when I check for them. It makes it entirely too easy not to notice there are errors before uploading. Still, there is hope and I’ve got the more detailed Strava heat map set up in it now.

Location: Dolores County, Colorado, United States

Discussion

Comment from wegerje on 29 January 2023 at 16:34

Double click to create a single point. To connect two lines in JOSM find a node and begin/end your new line there. But be careful sometimes it will assume the new line belongs to the old.

To extend a line find an end point (node), select the line (Click on the line where no node is), then in add Line (same as add point) mode click on the end point and continue. JOSM assumes some things are obvious when they kinda are not.

It took me a long to to realize that two lines (areas) can sometimes share the same nodes just one on top of the other. Like when grass shares a wood line with grass on one side and wood on the other. You can hold down the key and keep clicking to see the other lines tags (in select mode). JOSM has a million tricks like that.

Want to combine two nodes into one node. Select one, hold the shift key down and select the other and type “m” (merge). etc etc etc.

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