Hi,

Everybody adds access=private for a reason.
The problem is that in many cases "a legal justification" is just somebody idea: “it would be a nice to have it” implemented by an OSM mapper (or even invented by an OSM mapper).

However, I do believe that you do not remember what was the legal base of adding the a/m tag.
Therefore, I am not going to write more messages in this changeset discussion or to you.
I do not change the a/m way tags as well.

Thank you very much for your time and answers.

Taking this opportunity, I would like to thank Mateusz for his advice.
I thought that GoogleStreet screenshot can be published.
To avoid any problem with Google, I have just removed the screenshot (hyper link does not work anymore).

With kind regards,

Zenon

Up to 19.05.2021, a way : way/257320128 has only two tags:
highway=service; surface=concrete:plates service . However, on 19.05.2021 you added a tag: access=private .

Why you added a tag access = private?
Do you have a legal justification to do that? If not please remove this tag.

OSM forum will not answer why you added tag access=private.
For me in many cases a tag access=private is used without any justification by “the masters of disaster for the pedestrians and cyclists”

1. A Google StreetView shot screen shows that the subjected route is a one way route. Please see: http://u.pc.cd/mj8 (a small signpost “entry ban”)

2. My photos (from October 2023: 2_photo_by_Zenon_K56 , 3_photo_by_Zenon_K56 and from July 2023: 3_photo_by_Zenon_K56) show a nice dirt road (Lema) used by the cyclists and pedestrians which is accessible only via an short part of an alleged private route. Please see: http://u.pc.cd/8nvrtalK , http://u.pc.cd/jX1ctalK , (the way to subjected road from opposite direction: http://u.pc.cd/9rQ7).

3. Geoportal360.pl_screenshot.jpg shows much more then we can see now being there (or in a satellite view). Geoportal prompts us that many building plots will be accessible only via the subjected road. Please see: http://u.pc.cd/1UIctalK

4. IMHO the OSM mappers should reflect: a real life according to their best knowledge; be in line with a legal basis if known or confirmed; be open to a change proposal based on common sense.

5. That's why, I would like to have a real life reflected in tags. The cyclist and pedestrian used the subject road because there is no gate, barrier, fence, ect. Therefore, the upper part of the road is not a one way road. Please see: http://u.pc.cd/5z3italK

6. Is there an effective way to address to a local mapper (mappers) the issue of finding a legal base, which will confirm that the subjected road is private ?

7. Thanking you in anticipation of your understanding and answer.

The issue is not a survey by local mappper at all. I was there few times. Last time on 14 Oct 2023. The real issue is if you have any reliable source of infomation that proves that a private person is an owner of this route. If you data comes from your "finger in the air". Then please save your time and mine and let me do what a commons sense propmpts to do and what many cyclists would like to see. With kind regards Zenon.

Przepraszam za pomyłkę droga nie ma części gruntowej (o której pisałem poprzednio). Proszę o odpowiedź czy mogę zmienić otagowanie górnego odcinka highway=service i vehicle=private. Uzasadnienie w załączniku: http://u.pc.cd/4Jj

Pod adresem: https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZvlz70Zzr8OLjAcDFHYYsLdC6IODfqIFzLV
jest zdjecie pokazujące szczegóły o jaki odcinek chodzi

Tag access=private jest nadużywany ze szkodą dla pieszych i rowerzystów.

Droga otagowana tym tagiem ma około 280metrów i składa siez 2 odcinków. 50 metrowy odcinek tej drogi jest drogą gruntową, biegnącą poziomo od ul. Lema do ulicy Herberta używaną przez pieszych i rowerzystów.

Na tym odcinku od strony Herberta jest 10m stromy podjazd, dlatego chciałbym zmienić otagowanie tego odcinka na: motor_vehicle=no, foot=yes, bicycle=yes (lub ewentualnie na: motor_vehicle=private, bicycle=yes, foot=yes)

Pozostały 230 metrowy odcinek, który jest z płyt betonowych, pozostałby niezmieniony.

Nie chcąc robić niczego bez powiadomienia, piszę ten komentarz z nadzieją o wyrozumiałość i wysłanie mi wiadomości że nie ma przeciwskazań, a jeżeli są to jakie.