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Another short post on street furniture (you can definitely tell I haven’t got out much in the pandemic as this is the sort of mundane detail I’m focused on at present). Once again these are, as much as anything, notes for myself.

The Ranty Highwayman wrote a great detailed post about the different types of tactile paving and how they should be used in the UK: https://therantyhighwayman.blogspot.com/2015/02/tricky-tactiles.html. It’s very helpful if confused about the various types, and may help to spot incorrect layouts (which can be tagged).

My only additional contribution is to note that in the UK the tactile paving slabs tend to come in a very restricted set of sizes:

  • 40 cm square. The most usual size for both blister & corduroy (hazard warning) paving. There are 6 blisters up & across. I haven’t counted the lines.
  • 45 cm square. A bit less frequent, 7 blisters across (illustrated in the blog post above).
  • larger (perhaps 60cm+). Blister interval possibly bigger than in the previous two examples, 9 blisters a side. I haven’t measure these slabs precisely, but this is an example on Mapillary.

More examples of tactile paving can be found on suppliers’ sites such as this one.

So far, so unbelievably nerdish, but there’s a nifty bit of knowledge from this info which can be applied to mapping much more widely! Knowing the paving slab sizes makes it easy to estimate the width of pedestrian crossings, crossings at dropped kerbs and any pavement/sidewalk where the corduroy hazard slabs are used. This can not only provide a simple way to survey widths without using a tape measure or laser device, but can also assist in estimating widths based on experience.

Location: Old Lenton, Lenton, Nottingham, England, NG7 2FE, United Kingdom

Discussion

Comment from Lejun on 7 August 2021 at 15:50

For what it’s worth, in France we also have a limited range of dimensions regarding tactile paving. We have a lot of rules about pedestrian crossings such as: * 40 cm width for tactile paving (120 cm minimum total length) which seems identical with your values ; * 50 cm distance to the road (kerb included). In front of the paving, the kerb should have a max height of 2 cm to be considered “ flushed” and 5 cm on the sides. Unfortunately of the 4 rules mentionned, only the first is frequently respected. The reason being that it would require too much supplementary work to reduce the size of standardized slabs.

Comment from Jez Nicholson on 8 August 2021 at 13:04

Hey Jerry,

Using StreetComplete I generally answer that (most) bus stops in Brighton have tactile kerbs….i’ve since learned about them being Kassel Kerbs, which whilst having a textured top perhaps have this to help the bus rather than to aid the partially sighted. So, in OSM are they ‘tactile paving’ or not? They certainly got a textured top and mark the edge…but…is this enough?

Rgds, Jez

Comment from SK53 on 8 August 2021 at 16:19

Typical ones here use corduroy slabs (I suspect 40 cm by 40 cm) just behind the kerb: example on Mapillary here. Like the blister slabs the number of grooves corresponds with dimensions of the slabs. This I think is just a generic hazard warning. Iincidentally I have measured the pavement widths on this stretch because it’s a serious pinch point for cyclists, electric scooter riders & pedestrians, not helped by having a poorly sighted corner constrained by being a Grade II* listed building, and Grade II* cast iron bollards & chains behind the bus stop. Sticking a big CCTV pole at the corner doesn’t help either.

The other type I haven’t mention are the lozenge blisters used on tram platforms. I haven’t physically measured those, but at this tram stop they appear to be the same size with 6 blisters in a 3 x2 pattern in the 40 cm paving slab. This latter photo shows all three types in a short distance.

None of my local bus stops have anything like Kassel Kerbs, all are pretty much plain kerbs, although I’d need to check as some may have the new perforated kerbs. I’m also not sure if it’s only the raised kerbs which have tactile paving or all bus stops (although all are raised close by).

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