What am I missing?

Posted by RussNelson on 25 April 2011 in English (English)

What else needs mapping in Potsdam, NY, all you OSMers?

Comment from 42429 on 26 April 2011 at 08:31

Let me give a very long review that may take months of work to realize:
1. Though local use differs, trunk is intended to designate fast routes with four lanes, few at-grade intersections and many bypasses. US 11 has just two lanes and runs through all the towns, so it would be better designated as primary. (There is only one user who converts many roads to trunk.)
2. The functional classification map
gives an indication which rural roads may be upgraded to primary, secondary or tertiary.
3. Street names should be written with full name (e.g. Street instead of St). Unfortunately, no bot has done it so far.
4. Street tags should include lit=yes/no (street light), maxspeed, surface and other restrictions like maxweight. If you have visited the street in personal, source=survey would be great. TIGER tags are mainly useless.
5. The substation and the major power line have no operator and no voltage so far.
6. landuse=retail is a widespread landuse for shops. landuse=commercial is intended for offices. landuse=industrial is intended for manufacturing. Unfortunaltely there is a collusion with American language use. "commercial vehicles are carrying goods from industrial areas to retail areas" might be a good phrase to keep in mind.
7. natural and agricultural landuse is missing so far.
8. bus stops and bus routes (if they really exist in rural America) are missing so far. (However, creating a bus route relation is hard work which is usually done by specialists)
9. wheelchair accessibility
These are just some suggestions, you may decide which features you want to realize.

Yours, FK270673

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Comment from SK53 on 26 April 2011 at 09:29

Baseball diamonds
Parking lanes in car parks
Pedestrian crossings
Residential landuse

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Comment from Richard on 26 April 2011 at 13:18

"trunk is intended to designate fast routes with four lanes, few at-grade intersections and many bypasses"

No it isn't. Ever since we started using in in the UK, highway=trunk is the core long-distance road network of the country - hence the name. Local countries are free to define their own criteria according to the highway construction and classification standards of their nation, and it's good that you've defined your own criteria in Germany. But please don't try and impose German usage on the rest of the world.

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Comment from 42429 on 26 April 2011 at 14:42

In the United States, trunk means "surface expressway" (normally a high-speed divided highway with at-grade intersections and sometimes some interchanges) or major intercity highway.

However, the trunk dispute has lead to the first banned user in Germany (who refused to read his personal messages on the trunk/primary issue). The other issues (secondary/tertiary, unclassified/residential, service/track, cycleway/footway/path) are still disputed so far.

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Comment from RussNelson on 26 April 2011 at 20:36

Ain't gonna fight NE2 on this one. Feel free to argue with him if you want.
I'm not going to worry about name abbreviations. We need a bot to fix them; JOSM knows how to complain; damnit, a robot can fix them, then.
Pedestrian crossings? Done!
Baseball diamonds? Done!
Parking aisles? Done! (well, mostly).

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Comment from RussNelson on 27 April 2011 at 03:53

It's too bad that OSM doesn't have actual layers. Landuse is a 'onto' relationship. Every bit of land has a use, even if the use is "natural".

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Comment from RussNelson on 27 April 2011 at 04:00

I don't know the voltage on the National Grid powerlines.
There seems to be no landuse=agricultural tag, so I tagged the farmland as landuse=farmland.
Landuse seems like it ought to be made up out of multipolygons.

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Comment from alv on 27 April 2011 at 21:09

Waste baskets, benches
Rest of the house numbers, residential buildings, their entrances, building:levels tags
Fences, hedges, scrubs, cliffs, retaining walls
Smaller aka. minor power lines
Parking restrictions on the streets
Overtaking restrictions
Underground water pipes
Private driveways

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Comment from ke9tv on 30 April 2012 at 11:41

I see that you have done data import from NYSGIS. I have an OSM project in mind that also involves NYSGIS data, and I'd like to get in touch with you to hear how you handled licensing issues and the like. (I'm also curious about how you handled the import of "NYS DEC Lands," since the result doesn't appear to match very closely with what I now see from NYSGIS.)

Could I trouble you to shoot me an email at so that I'll have your contact information? Thanks.

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