Hi there!
This is a fully underground station, like a metro station but the vehicles going here are trams. Picture here
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marabout_(métro_léger_de_Charleroi)#/media/Fichier:Station_Marabout.JPG
There are 10 stations in Charleroi like this, station=subway is used there. I had checked other cities with underground trams like Brussels and Köln.
Do you think there is a mistake with this? We can change it.

Bonjour,
Attention à l’ordre des éléments dans les relations de bus.
Tous les arrêts doivent être mis en un seul bloc au début de la relation et puis seulement on ajoute les "ways".
Vous placez systématiquement le dernier arrêt des lignes à part, après le dernier "way" de la relation. Ceci est incorrect et nous conduit sans cesse à devoir repasser derrière vos modifications. Merci.

Please make sure to always check whether name:De_Lijn is set before publicly flagging a changeset as incorrect (because it isn’t). If the name tag does not validate what you expect, name:De_Lijn should. It is missing, add it.

We also work to improve TEC networks and the tag there is name:TEC. Same rules.

Hi,

Again, large cities like Antwerp , Brussels or Charleroi have dedicated network maps where the town prefix is not repeated on every stop.

name=Rerum Novarum
name:De_Lijn=Merksem Rerum Novarum

We follow the conventions explained on the osm wiki.
osm.wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Bus_stops#De_Lijn

OK, thanks for clarifying. Now that this information is mentioned in the note tag of the object, it would prevent accidental deletion in the future. ;-)

FYI, this bus stop still exists. What the website says is that "belbus" service which existed here has been discontinued in January. The "Flex" bus service is now operating from this location. The stop is still there, same location, but De Lijn renumbered it into 535933, see here: https://www.delijn.be/nl/haltes/535933/

All right, I’ve just made the change, thanks to both for the help.

For the last time, please STOP harrassing me through changeset comments!

This changeset is only there to perform a typo fix for the way Flex stops are presented.

This changeset is not an in-depth analysis of each stop. Should there be mistakes in source data, please address your complaints to the mapper who made the mistake, not to me.

osm.org/node/11518338538/history

Hi there!

Too bad you only said that "the stop has changed" and did not say what change exactly. You probably expected us do to all the homework to find out what you had in mind…

The change on 06.01 you mention is only that a Flex bus service now uses this stop, in addition to regular bus routes.
This is currently properly reflected in the properties of this bus stop.
OSM data for this stop is correct.

We would appreciate that you would stop commenting on our changesets, especially when there is nothing special or nothing wrong.

Yes but you mixed highway=bus_stop (which is already there for the node beside the road) and public_transport=stop_position (which is for the node attached to the road).
What you did is not what the guideline says. Look again, in PTv2 highway=bus_stop goes along with public_transport=platform, for the floating node. That explains the removal of highway=bus_stop from all those nodes.

Bonjour.
Le quai est 1 est en service ? C’est officiel à présent ? Important à savoir car dans les données officielles de la SNCB ce sont encore toujours uniquement les quais 3 et 4. Qu’en est-il ?

Hi there!
The answer is no. We apply OSM standards and all-caps names are not to be used on OSM. Exactly for the same reason that we write street names normally even when street signs are all-caps.

Hi there!
We are aware there are still hundreds of mistakes from the past, especially in this part of the country. This changeset aimed at fixing other relations; #5288324 was also modified but only because a way was split. We’ll try to investigate it in the next days.

Hi there!

I get your point. We may have a real difficulty here because De Lijn provides detailed timetables through its GTFS files and they really drew the official itinerary there, and 100% of trips in the timetable found in those files (which are up-to-date, we regenerate them 3 times a week) show this.

I think you are right because if I search on the website it gives a totally different itinerary. I will fix that tomorrow once I get back to the office.

Do you have an idea why DL would show that buses do this extension?
I see the notice here for works on Bruggestraat in Staden. Could that be the cause of an itinerary change?
https://www.delijn.be/nl/lijnen/5916/?richtingCode=0&showImportantAnnouncement=true&detourId=1232948

Kind regards.

This the location reported by GTFS files but there are no bus stops here.

They are already mapped on their correct location:
osm.org/node/2955183015
osm.org/node/2955183016

Hi there.

Gent Dampoort is the public name of all stops on the same spot, which is how PT operators present their stop to the public, e.g. on the network map or on outer displays of buses.

Each bus stop node in OSM contains details about how to identify them, the stop code (ref:De_Lijn) and the technical name (name:De_Lijn). This is where you will find the "Gent Dampoort B4" text string. Apps can easily take this string if they need to show all those details. The "Transport Map" layer on the osm.org website also displays local details for whoever needs them.

You can also have a look at the discussion we had for the very same topic a few days ago.
osm.org/changeset/145411185

Hallo,
Dit is een goede vraag. Volgens De Lijn is er geen verplaatsing (meer) voor die haltes.
Volgens deze pagina (https://www.oudenaarde.be/nl/nieuws/werken-op-en-rond-het-sint-jozefsplein) zitten we nu in fase 2+3, en Bulkendreef is beschikbaar voor het algemene verkeer.
Kan helaas niet overaal ter plaatse gaan controleren maar het lijkt dat de haltes wel terug zijn op de plein. Heb jij misschien informatie hierover?

Voor wat buslijnen betreft is het nu geregeld: 410 wordt omgeleid langs Houtlaan en 411/412 hebben een nieuwe reisweg die hier niet meer komt.

There are two stops with this name in OSM. They are both operated by TEC.

osm.org/node/2866610882, ref:TECH=H4co109b
osm.org/node/2866610883, ref:TECH=H4co109a
name:TEC=Comines/Komen Rue de la Victoire/Overwinningstraat

Those stops do exist. They are present in TEC’s current GTFS feed.

It is very trivial to find them on TEC’s website, e.g. https://www.letec.be/Itinerary/Detail%3FOriginStopId%3DH4co109b&JourneyFrom%3DCOMINES~2FKOMEN%2520Rue%2520de%2520la%2520Victoire~2FOverwinningstraat&OriginLatitude%3D50.7712515&OriginLongitude%3D3.0067022&DestinationStopID%3DH4co106d&JourneyTo%3DCOMINES~2FKOMEN%2520SNCB~2FStation&DestinationLatitude%3D50.7713526&DestinationLongitude%3D2.9975617&When%3Dnow&LeaveDate%3D26.01.2024%2520%25C3%25A0%252019%253A20&ArriveDate%3D26.01.2024%2520%25C3%25A0%252019%253A20&How%3Dbus&How%3Dtram&How%3Ddelijn&How%3Dstib&How%3Dsncb&WhenForm%3Dnow&IndexOf%3D0

Please learn how OSM works before dropping changeset comments like this. Had you simply inspected the tags of those stops, you would have easily understood they are *not* run by De Lijn anymore. This changeset perfectly reflects the current situation: those two stops are only operated by TEC.

You are providing a web link to stop 508193 which no longer exists. That is true… but this changeset correctly deleted it, so what is the problem? osm.org/node/2778102142/history

Please provide the exact reference (OSM object) of what you believe to be incorrect from this changeset, and please explain what "name change" we made and that you claim to be wrong.