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Will the notes ever be published?

Posted by int_ua on 8 October 2019 in English (English)

https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes/DWG_2018-11-14_Crimea I want to know who is responsible and for them to be held accountable, preferrably removed from project.

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Comment from gileri on 9 October 2019 at 17:36

This was not a light decision, and one that they would have preferred not to take. Please remain civil, that will help your voice to be heard.

Comment from Zverik on 10 October 2019 at 19:37

int_ua, why?

Comment from int_ua on 11 October 2019 at 14:17

gileri, I will remain civil, thank you. How do you know it wasn’t?

Zverik, because it wasn’t a transparent decision-making process. While there were two threads published on forums claiming to seek information it looks like not a single argument there was ever taken into account (I will not repeat them here for now), DWG just went ahead after some time without ever responding or providing arguments. Why weren’t notes published if there were no problem with the said process? To me it looks like a cover-up for deciding to appease a major “consumer” by ignoring smaller ones’ completely, possibly under influence of infiltrated agents.

To make life easier for others who have seen the discussion: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64206 If you don’t know Ukrainian and Russian I suggest you refrain from asking interested parties to translate for you because that may influence quality of translation, Zverik is an interested party.

Comment from int_ua on 11 October 2019 at 14:19

s/have seen/haven’t seen/

Comment from gileri on 11 October 2019 at 17:01

I want to know who is responsible and for them to be held accountable, preferrably removed from project.

That is not remaining civil. Your comment under the post is.

I don’t think OSM has any stake in this dispute, as they state in Informationfor officials and diplomats ofcountries and entities with disputed territories :

“The existence of a name, boundary location or description in the OpenStreetMapdatabase does NOT imply that that it is legally correct in any jurisdiction.”

They only made a decision to conform to a rule that was approved before this dispute.

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