Hello Phire Phly,

Thank you for your edit. Unfortunately it does not meet OpenStreetMap standards. Please refer to the following wiki page that focuses on deletions of trails but is applicable in this case.

osm.wiki/Why_can%27t_I_delete_this_trail%3F

If you have further questions regarding the policies or outdoor mapping in general then I recommend starting a discussion thread on the OpenStreetMap Community Forum.

https://community.openstreetmap.org

If you would like to dispute this revert of your edit then you can reach out to the Data Working Group, the moderation group of OpenStreetMap by sending an email to the following email address.

data@openstreetmap.org

Thank you, eerib

There should be a trail here but it may require some searching at the trail intersection as users may have obscured the entrance. I can see recent user data in the past month for this trail in the Strava dataset, which suggests it's still seeing use.

If you're in the area again, please double check as it's unlikely that the trail no longer exists.

Here are some photos I took of the trail that is construction in this area along with the GPS point of the photos.

https://imgur.com/a/1ek3VRi

The first two photos show the roughed in sections of the trail, where I also found tools hidden adjacent to the work area.

The last photo shows one of the stake flags that is marking the intended route of the trail.

Reverted - Vandalism

changeset/180698190

Hello Shinsplints,

The other user (boncnaa) you're referring to tried to delete the trail for the following rationale:

1. "an illegal trail on private land"
2. "it is an unsantioned trail that should not be on any map. It would be a shame for this trail to be found and ridden hard. This would take away the loam and beauty to this trail."
3. "The trail has been destroyed by the rain over the last few months making it impassible and dangerous."

This shifting rationale with each vandalism attempt, and the high likelihood that that account is a sockpuppet of another previously banned user, is warrant enough to disregard their vandalism.

You're welcome to take this up with the Data Working Group if you feel strongly about it.

data@openstreetmap.org

Yari na, eerib

Reverted - Vandalism

changeset/180654515

Reverted - Vandalism

changeset/180609042

Hello Shinsplints,

If you would like to dispute this revert of your edit then you can reach out to the Data Working Group, the moderation group of OpenStreetMap, by sending an email to the following email address.

data@openstreetmap.org

Bear in mind that the Data Working Group is well aware of your previous deceitful behaviour including submitting AI edited photographs. Continued attempts to misrepresent and vandalize OpenStreetMap may result in your editing privileges being removed.

Yari na, eerib

Hello Shinsplints,

It's very important that you be truthful in your changeset comment and not vandalize mountain bike trails with false information.

If you would like to dispute this revert of your edit then you can reach out to the Data Working Group, the moderation group of OpenStreetMap, by sending an email to the following email address.

data@openstreetmap.org

Yari na, eerib

Hello boncnaa,

Thank you for your edit. Unfortunately it does not meet OpenStreetMap standards and therefore has been reverted. Please refer to the following wiki page.

osm.wiki/Why_can%27t_I_delete_this_trail%3F

If you have further questions regarding the policies or trail mapping in general then I recommend starting a discussion thread on the OpenStreetMap Community Forum.

https://community.openstreetmap.org

If you would like to dispute this revert of your edit then you can reach out to the Data Working Group, the moderation group of OpenStreetMap, by sending an email to the following email address.

data@openstreetmap.org

Thank you, eerib

An option is always to use natural=hill

natural=hill

The only challenge with this option is that no mainstream outdoor navigation apps display natural=hill features.

Hello boncnaa,

Thank you for your edit. Unfortunately it does not meet OpenStreetMap standards and therefore has been reverted. This is an unsanctioned mountain bike trail located on unsurveyed crown land and is correctly marked as such. Please refer to the following wiki page.

osm.wiki/Why_can%27t_I_delete_this_trail%3F

If you have further questions regarding the policies or trail mapping in general then I recommend starting a discussion thread on the OpenStreetMap Community Forum.

https://community.openstreetmap.org

If you would like to dispute this revert of your edit then you can reach out to the Data Working Group, the moderation group of OpenStreetMap, by sending an email to the following email address.

data@openstreetmap.org

Thank you, eerib

Hello RVR015,

This is an unsanctioned mountain bike trail where names that contain profanity are very common.

The original name of this feature was "Boogiewoodro" added by Shinsplints in Changeset #124244777. The name was changed to "Boogie Bitch" by user Donnglet in Changeset #175115952. The name was then changed back to "Boogiewoodro" by Shinsplints in Changeset #130925944.

I have surveyed this trail and did not find a sign but the am aware that the primary name for this trail is "Boogiewoodro". I added "Boogie Bitch" as an alt_name as that may be what some call it.

I recommend reaching out to user Donnglet for more information on the alt_name.

Cheers, eerib

Hello ovaryaction

Thank you for your edit. Unfortunately it does not meet OpenStreetMap standards. Please refer to the following wiki page that focuses on deletions of trails but is applicable in this case.

osm.wiki/Why_can%27t_I_delete_this_trail%3F

If you have further questions regarding the policies or outdoor mapping in general then I recommend starting a discussion thread on the OpenStreetMap Community Forum.

https://community.openstreetmap.org

If you would like to dispute this revert of your edit then you can reach out to the Data Working Group, the moderation group of OpenStreetMap by sending an email to the following email address.

data@openstreetmap.org

Thank you, eerib

changeset/179103587

Hello ovaryaction

Thank you for your edit. Unfortunately it does not meet OpenStreetMap standards. Please refer to the following wiki page that focuses on deletions of trails but is applicable in this case.

osm.wiki/Why_can%27t_I_delete_this_trail%3F

If you have further questions regarding the policies or outdoor mapping in general then I recommend starting a discussion thread on the OpenStreetMap Community Forum.

https://community.openstreetmap.org

If you would like to dispute this revert of your edit then you can reach out to the Data Working Group, the moderation group of OpenStreetMap by sending an email to the following email address.

data@openstreetmap.org

Thank you, eerib

changeset/179103587

Hello NeisBot,

Some of deletions were correct and some were not. For the trails that actually have been decommissioned, destroyed, or may be faint I've instead marked them with the destroyed or abandoned lifecycle prefix. For trails that were improperly deleted I've restored the trail.

A helpful reference for trails in OpenStreetMap is:

osm.wiki/Why_can%27t_I_delete_this_trail%3F

Cheers, eerib

Hello cwms16,

If you would like to dispute this revert of your edit then you can reach out to the Data Working Group, the moderation group of OpenStreetMap, by sending an email to the following email address.

data@openstreetmap.org

In your email I recommend including:

- Your Crown Lands File Number for the orienteering tenure in this specific location.
- Associated tenure paperwork showcasing your tenure in this specific location.
- A GPX file of your recent activity in this area.
- An explanation for why single track trails in this area are plainly visible in satellite imagery and why they are materially different than BC Hydro's access roads.
- An explanation for why the Strava Heatmap shows dirt bike activities along the trail.
- Any photos that you believe may help support your dispute.

Cheers, eerib

Hello Shinsplints,

I was able to confirm that the photos you included in your changeset description were AI edited.

The signage today:
https://imgur.com/a/ADPDusB

I have changed the name back to what I had it.

Yari na, eerib

Hello all,

There is a wiki page that speaks to OpenStreetMap policy on trail deletions and the rationale of why we keep unsanctioned and/or private trails..

osm.wiki/Why_can%27t_I_delete_this_trail%3F

My guess is that these trails are unsanctioned mountain bike trails. If that is the case then it would be appropriate to add the informal=yes tag to indicate that the trail is unsanctioned.

If the land owner has specifically put up signs or another form of communication that these specific trails are not to be used then it would be appropriate to add the access=no tag to indicate that the land owner wants no access of the trail.

Cheers, eerib

Revert changeset/177863952, 177863808, 177863316 - Vandalism & Deceit (AI edited photo)

changeset/177866248