OpenStreetMap

Openstreetmap.org on steroids

Posted by baditaflorin on 20 May 2012 in English. Last updated on 4 June 2012.

openstreetmap.org is and will remain a demonstration map, not a real website, an end user mapping tool, so this is why 90 % more people use and will comtinue to use google maps

And i want to change that.

So let`s build an openstreetmap.org on steroids.

What this website has to contain :

  1. Clickable POI`s Simple and Straightforward . You see a place, you click on it, you find information about it. And you have the possibility to send a link to the place, etc.

  2. Link to search results. This simple yet non-existing feature. I want to give a link to somebody to 120 Avenue Street . Or to the Museum. I don`t want to give him a permanent link that shows the map, i want to give him the exact location that we will find, without telling him, go to osm.org and search for 120 Avenue Street and you will find it. https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4408

  3. Render all the shops. rigth now on mapnik more than half the POIs are not rendered, including dentist shops, amenity=veterinary ,shop=electronics , shop=kiosk Those 4 tags alone represent 35000 new POIs that could be shown on the map https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4403

  4. Opening_hours filter. Opening_hours is a great tool, very usefull when you are in a new town, city, etc. Imagine yourself at 3 AM, wanting to find a non-stop shop to buy cigarettes. Or a beer, juice, etc.

The same example is useful for a tourist, in a foreign country, on a Sunday, and wants to see a museum. But at least in my country, more then half the museums are closed on sunday. And Some of them are open only 3 days a week. And only for 6 hours.

Sub task proposition : Alert me when a place opens. Mail alert when amenity X is Open.

  1. The possibility to add a Pin to the map, and send, share this pin. If i want to send to somebody a link to the website, for a meeting point, etc i will have to have a simple way to create o pin point , where we will meet.

  2. Routing

  3. You are not able to search GPS coordinates in OSM website. Basic GPS coordinates. https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4429

Feel free to continue the list.

Location: Pantelimon, Sector 2, Bucharest, Romania

Discussion

Comment from chillly on 20 May 2012 at 12:25

You are right. OSM website is not a site intended for people to use just as a map.

The OSM site is about editing the map data. OSM does not have the servers or bandwidth to supply map tiles for general use. The idea is that people take the data and render their own tiles. That way they can have any POIs on them that they want. They can have overlays, routers or any other detail they want and respond to clicks on the overlay.

It doesn’t make much sense to compare OSM with Google, the reason they exist is very different. Google maps are there to hang advertisements on, either directly on the map or on surrounding web pages. Google doesn’t care much about maps, they sell advertising, and do it very well.

OSM people care about maps, but many different types, so OSM could not display a single map that suits everyone (Cycling, hiking, boating, motoring, navigation, tourism, disabled access, horse-riding, archaeology, railways, skiing… ). That’s why people can render their own or add overlays to others such as MapQuest’s Open tiles.

Comment from OliverG on 20 May 2012 at 22:38

Half-offtopic, but: are there plans to distribute Mapnik rendering and tile serving between multiple servers? I might be able to donate some CPU time and bandwidth to render and serve the tiles for my local town, hoping to reduce rendering latency esp. for Cyclemap and Transport Map. Is there a way for the main osm.org server to redirect tile requests for specific regions to a different server?

Comment from baditaflorin on 21 May 2012 at 07:19

I don`t know if is something already build, but i see there are different variants that people want to implement.

It would be useful, and this would be the only way that we can offer a service that can handle the load that google maps have, but at 1 % of the cost.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Distributed_Tile_Caching_Model

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Distributed_Tile_Caching

Comment from Richard on 21 May 2012 at 11:57

@OliverG: see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Servers/Tile_CDN (for the main Mapnik style; the cycle map and transport map do not have publicly available stylesheets). It requires a little more than “donating some CPU time”, though.

Comment from OliverG on 21 May 2012 at 21:33

Richard: that’s indeed a bit more than I had intended to donate… Probably the system I had in mind was more like the one described at http://www.flossk.org/en/blog/project-proposal-map-tile-distribution-and-master-directory-map-tile-distributors , allowing to serve very small regions from my server.

Comment from baditaflorin on 21 May 2012 at 22:25

This is why i`m referring, so that the tiles to be “nowhere” if it will be possible to be loaded dynamically tiles from 1 million people that have something like a torrent. Something dynamically that can be loaded as we download a torrent file from 50000 different peers

Them the bandwidth and cpu processing power i think that will not be that big, even if more people start using the service.

Comment from malenki on 23 May 2012 at 14:08

@ OP: What you describe sounds like you are looking for http://www.openlinkmap.org/

hth malenki

Comment from baditaflorin on 23 May 2012 at 14:17

@Malenki Eayh, but Openlinkmap is not even in alpha stage I will submit some sugestion too them

The ability to copy paste the results, to see them in the right , not only directly on the map.

Only 1 % of the POI are clickable. ( Only the ones that have more then name and amenity )

http://www.openlinkmap.org/?zoom=17&lat=44.43416&lon=26.10316&layers=BFTTT

Comment from compdude on 24 May 2012 at 17:47

Once OpenLinkMap is more complete, we should implement it into OSM. That would be AWESOME!!!

Comment from baditaflorin on 4 June 2012 at 17:35

I added the 7 stuff that it should contain

  1. You are not able to search GPS coordinates in OSM website. Basic GPS coordinates. https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4429

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