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164439187 10 months ago

Hello, I think that this change might have caused a problem with a few relations. I've mentioned it on the forum at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/relation-breakage-on-the-coastline-northeast-of-swords/128284 .
To be clear, this absolutely isn't your fault - the problem is (a) the complicated way that relations are mapped here and (b) the way that the OSM editors don't notice that relations now have problems.
Best Regards,
Andy

164393372 10 months ago

Hello 5155 and welcome to OSM,
What was the source of for example way/1373870321 ? It looks barely visible on Bing or ESRI imagery.
Best Regards,
Andy

153500189 10 months ago

Hello,
Please join the discussion at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/please-update-and-include-somalia-s-newest-state-in-the-map/128229 to discuss the relation deleted here.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend,
On behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.

164345097 10 months ago

I think that this might have accidentally created a gap in the Norfolk AONB relation/9471593 - I've rejoined it again.

164364458 10 months ago

Hello,
Please contact the DWG by email at data@openstreetmap.org with a subject line of "[Ticket#2023050810000254] changeset/164364458" so that we can add you to the ongoing discussion about this.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group

163238150 10 months ago

Despite those maps being "© Crown Copyright and database right 2024" I believe that I've seen similar data released under OGL (and hence licence-compatible).
I'm a bit confused by what I see at both "Natural England - Open Access maps" and "CROW Section 4 Conclusive Maps" linked from there - locally to me only some of what I thought was "common land" is listed as such, but there's extra sections of "access land" that I wasn't expecting!
Nothing listed in the Woolton area though.

164294216 10 months ago

Not sure what the letting policy is; I'm guessing it's relatively short term and therefore would benefit from some sort of tourism tag; I local might want to add that.

164292673 10 months ago

To contact the DWG about this edit, please email data@openstreetmap.org with a subject line of "[Ticket#2025032810000494] Clifton Lane".
Note that "primary" was backed up by both OS OpenData StreetView (from 2016) and also last year's OS OpenMap Local, both of which are licence-compatible with OSM.
Apparently some listed speed limit was also wrong, but as https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/21kx shows no current speed limit there, I've left as is.

163324578 10 months ago

Editing CanVec-inspired relations is always a challenge - I mean, just look at relation/1100815 :)
It looks like iD didn't flag anything up here (which is not entirely a surprise).
One thing that you may be able to do immediately after the edit is to check affected relations with JOSM's validator - I wrote @SomeoneElse/diary/406398 a few days ago in another context, but it should work here too.
There's also the more general check that was mentioned above - https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=-63.76396&lat=44.62007&zoom=13&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.95&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways . That won't show issues immediately but it will check everything, and is also useful to do.
As for the best way to make CanVec relations "editable by humans", that's probably a question for https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/ca/95 . Where I've encountered similar things (not in Canada) I've tried to isolate bite-sized pieces of natural=wood from the monster relation and attack it that way.
That will also allow you to update OSM to match changes since CanVec was imported at osm.org/#map=20/44.6587018/-63.8351248 , that's 14 years ago. A glance at the underlying imagery suggests that it's all either more or fewer trees, and there isn't a great correlation between "natural=wood" in OSM and "lots of trees in imagery" - there's some, but not much.
Best Regards,
Andy

164106876 10 months ago

Thanks for fixing this. For info, there is still an issue with some of the other relations here. Since at least 4 people are fixing things, I've posted in the Irish forum at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/coastline-and-relation-breakage-in-killiney-south-of-dublin/128102 suggesting that people work together there.
I mention this not in any expectation of you fixing anything else, just purely for interest :)

164073526 10 months ago

For completeness, there is still an issue here. Since at least 4 people are fixing things, I've posted in the Irish forum at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/coastline-and-relation-breakage-in-killiney-south-of-dublin/128102 suggesting that people work together there.

163924121 10 months ago

For completeness, there is still an issue here. Since at least 4 people are fixing things, I've posted in the Irish forum at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/coastline-and-relation-breakage-in-killiney-south-of-dublin/128102 suggesting that people work together there.

164227255 10 months ago

I think that the merge of the ways to make way/323221895/history makde a couple of townlands invalid polygons; I split it again in changeset/164282607 .
To be clear it might not have been this changeset; this was just the most recent one that edited the road :)

163238150 10 months ago

I'm not familiar with this area - I'm hoping that you were!
I'm always puzzled by "what is officially a common and what isn't". In some case it's obviously signed as such on the ground (and you might have get some bylaws posted - one near me has that). Part of another one near me seems to be used as farmland currently - but maybe that was never part of, but only adjacent to, the "common" part? I'm not sure how you'd tell...

163261711 10 months ago

Hello,
What was "invalid" that led to the change here? The comment just says "Fixed an invalid way." which does not really explain anything.
Best Regards,
Andy

163238150 10 months ago

Just wondered - how do you check that this isn't dedicated as a common?

163170435 10 months ago

Hello MPFG,
It'd be great if the changeset comment here was a bit more descriptive, such as "added buildings to a suspiciously empty area in the east of Glasgow"
Best Regards,
Andy

164230732 10 months ago

The "one vs four" problem was caused indirectly by the mapping of the former units as "buildings" (possibly by me!). This isn't really correct; there's actually really only one building on each side, and the interior partitions can be moved and removed easily.

164164848 10 months ago

@NTMountainRanger the problem with "just deleting" things like this is that it will not have the effect that you want it to have. If someone sees a "missing path" from old imagery, they might just add it back.
Your colleagues in England and Wales have worked extensively with OSM (including at least one joint session in Clumber Park in Nottinghamshire, if I remember correctly) - perhaps it's worth chatting with them?
An example of the sort of fix that would work can be seen at way/1086252957/history and changeset/135290950 , over Dropping Crag near Scafell Pike in the English Lake District. "AWMapper" in that conversation is one of your English colleagues.
Best Regards,
Andy

164184808 10 months ago

Hello,
It looks like this change might have introduced a gap into a couple of townlands - see relation/4204334#map=19/54.816293/-6.130655 and relation/4161726#map=19/54.816293/-6.130655 . Are you able to fill it in or would you like help with that?
Best Regards,
Andy