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114383595

Hello,
I appreciate you've spent time tidying up the stuff that was imported here, but I'm concerned that as we don't know the source of the original data, we have no way of knowing whether it is licence-compatible with OSM (all attempts at communicating with the original importer failed).
Some of it is obviously still not useful as it stands (way/1007307802 does not connect to anything), but at least the "here is a footway" is verifiable from imagery in a way that house numbers and postcodes aren't.
Best Regards,
Andy

114416464

I'm just concerned that you're spending a lot of time editing things that I'm probably going to have to delete shortly - I don't want you to waste your time.

114418394

From another quick sample, way/962057588 is another one that looks like it just doesn't exist.

114416464

You've removed tracktype here, but way/999523559 and way/971767658 don't appear to exist at all (other than "someone could drive round a field here").

114413141

Looking on the available imagery, way/1006191185 does not look like a track at all. Likewise, relation/6093419 does not look at all like allotments.

114404745

Apologies about the size - these changes are all in the USA apart from 1 changeset in India (which I'll look at separately)

114401001

Hello Jeet Dev,
As you can see from node/9182612241/history you have removed lots of keys from this place. Can you explain what the problem with them was?
Also, can you please link to the data source that you have referred to in your changeset comment here?
Best Regards,
Andy

113908431

Hello again,
No reply, so I've filled in the gap here in changeset/114394801 , after talking to the person who originally added it on IRC. I've also re-added a stile where the old one node/2698217399 was.
Best Regards,
Andy

114376000

Hello again VARVAR8,
In addition to the things previously mentioned, could you please try and use changeset comments that explain to other mappers what changes you're making? Here you've used a bunch of hashtags and then just "challenge_19281" which doesn't really say anything. See osm.wiki/Good_changeset_comments for details.
Best Regards,
Andy

114356681

Hello Bharat Patil,
The fact that you're adding 10,000 nodes at a time looks very much like an import. These must follow osm.wiki/Import/Guidelines , which includes discussing it with the community beforehand. Also, you'll need to explain a bit more about your edit, not just one imagery source. See osm.wiki/Good_changeset_comments . For example, what plan for conflation did you have?
Best Regards,
Andy

114150538

Just for info, I've mentioned this changeset in a diary comment: @martin-kokos/diary/398149

114359065

Hello VARVAR8,
Just a reminder that the questions that I linked to in changeset/107276082 .
As I said there, it's looking increasingly likely that we'll have no option to revert your MapWithAI additions, and for information the DWG has had another request this morning to delete them.
Best Regards,
Andy

114310507

Where I've seen similar issues previously is around Marble Arch: relation/5640188 . There the data wasn't invalid and I had to explicitly exclude that type of junction from processing. Here the tags on the multipolygon members just didn't make a lot of sense, in addition to the geometry being unlikely. I left it as a multipolygon with one member to make the history easier to see, but arguably that should be tidied now. I saved the previous state at https://gist.github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/d3e8a4951b013cb8cbeeaf77706615ba . With osm2pgsql 0.96.0 the order of the ways in the relation relation/5660722/history had an effect on which appeared and which didn't. Note that even the "non-road" in that relation had access tags: way/380116486/history . Is there an easy overpass way to find "multipolygon relation with certain tags with constituent ways with certain tags"? It might be useful to look for more.

114310507

Previously part of Tower Bridge Road and two parts of Decima Street were part of the multipolygon. This didn't look right - most importantly because the imagery shows Tower Bridge Road as quite wide here and the pedestrian area much narrower than previously drawn.
Also the packaging of the outside roads into a multipolygon meant as far as I can see they were no longer valid geometrical objects in their own right - I was seeing one (arguably correctly) not shown and one (arguably in error) appear.
What's missing now I suspect is the "logical linear footway" through the pedestrian area, and where it connects to the sidewalk (or perhaps a crossing) to the south, and the connections to the crossings at east and northeast.

102066738

> But my decision is partly based on experience gained when hiking in this locality.
That's great! If you're familiar with the local conditions then yes - you'll have a pretty good idea what the tracktype is.

109484665

(після відповіді, отриманої в приватні повідомлення)

Важливо відповісти на публічний коментар обговорення набору змін у самому обговоренні набору змін, щоб кожен, хто бачить вихідне запитання, також міг побачити відповідь.

Відповідь на загальнодоступне повідомлення в додатку для приватних повідомлень, наприклад Telegram, також не є гарною, тому що лише кілька людей зможуть його побачити.

Будь ласка, дайте відповідь тут.

109484665

(following up a reply received by private message)

It's important to reply to a public changeset discussion comment in the changeset discussion itself, so that everyone who can see the original question can also see the answer.

A reply to a public message in a private messaging app such as Telegram is also not good, because only a few people will be able to see it.

Please reply here.

102066738

I was just a bit surprised that you'd be able to set the "tracktype" from that.

107276082

... and of course you still need to do the things that you were asked to do at osm.org/user_blocks/5479 .

107276082

Hello VARVAR8,
Thanks for your reply.
Unfortunately the scale of the problem is such that I don't think that it's physically possible for you do do that.
An overpass query http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1dvN covers a relatively small area of Ukraine and includes 1332 ways all added by you with an unfeasible tracktype. Many, like the example above, will presumably not be tracks at all but have multiple problems - not only has the wrong sort of feature been added, but in the wrong place (there's a clear offset between whatever poor-quality imagery that MapWithAI is using and the best available at osm.org).

> As you can see from my previous sets, I later revise the lines I have implemented and, if necessary, correct them

What I can see from your later edits is that you only "correct" very few problems and still miss lots of errors.

Can you please explain what process you are going to use to fix the errors that you have created. If you can't explain that effectively, we'll have no option to revert your erroneous additions (to be clear, the DWG has had a number of requests from the community in Ukraine asking us to do this).
Best Regards,
Andy