This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/163052641 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some changes to the River Thames - see changeset/162736067 and osm.org/user_blocks/17316

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/163052641 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some changes to the River Thames - see changeset/162736067 and osm.org/user_blocks/17316

This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset/163052641 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some changes to the River Thames - see changeset/162736067 and osm.org/user_blocks/17316

Hello, do you mind if I ask a personal question - are you a human?

Thanks

Currently the relation relation/4283214 is just a line with one member way/317689837 ? I'm guessing that "Part of Ausestown" is not actually a thing but "Causestown" is?

I asked my friend "Eliza" for help and she suggested asking:

Is it because you have not got any links there is an unsuitable sign
which may found at the top end covering that you came to me?

What, exactly, does the sign say?

Following the complaint to the DWG Ticket#2025022210000194 and the discussion above, I've reverted this in changeset/162910810 .
To reiterate, I suspect that, based on the sources above _most_ OSM mappers (even ones like me who often map such infrastructure as part of the road) would map this as a separate cycleway.
If anyone would like to discuss this further I'd suggest doing so in a public forum such as https://community.openstreetmap.org (I can add a "lithuania" tag to any posts if so desired). Discussing there would be better than a private location or a mailing list that's had one post in 6 months.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.

> There is also an "unsuitable..." sign at the top end

Is there? Can you link to a picture of it?

There may also be an "unsuitable..." sign at the top end covering way/46588460 and way/46588459 , but when I was last there the only signage was at the southeast.

Indeed - and I have to agree that even to someone (like me!) who tends to map roadside infrastructure as "part of the road", https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=54.673459200000025&lng=25.272460000000024&z=19.9&pKey=522626237131593&focus=photo&x=0.9962062785249548&y=0.5534350176382107&zoom=0.8075370121130552 definitely looks separate!

> Discussions have been done in mailing list https://lists.openstreetmap.org/admindb/talk-lt years ago

Thanks - do you have a link to the thread?

@Tomas perhaps you could link to the public forum where this discussion has been taking place?

@kkuzmickas Sveiki ir sveiki atvykę į OpenStreetMap!
Kaip ir ar pažymėti „važinėjimo dviračiu šaligatviu“ infrastruktūrą, yra karštai diskutuojama OpenStreetMap tema. Yra dviračių šalininkų, kurie teigia, kad visur, kur tai leidžiama, reikėtų pažymėti atskirai, o yra tokių (kaip Tomas čia), kurie teigia, kad „cycleway:right=oneway“ yra teisingas, o kas daugiau čia klaidingai parodytų dviračių nuomos dydį. Paprastai kalbant, įtariu, kad ankstesnės nuomonės žmonių yra dauguma, o su Tomu sutinkančių – mažuma.
Tačiau tai, kas yra teisinga kiekvienu konkrečiu atveju, priklauso nuo to individualaus atvejo.
Atrodo, kad čia yra gana gera Mapillary aprėptis – žr. pvz. https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=54.674222222222&lng=25.272191666667027&z=17&pKey=505301730893404&focus=photo – ir atrodo, kad tarp ciklo ir kelio juostos, kuri rodo teisingą gatvę/kraštą, yra ir Tomas buvo neteisus.
@Tomas%20Straupis ar turite ką nors pakomentuoti?
Pagarbiai
Andy Townsendas, OSM duomenų darbo grupės vardu.

@kkuzmickas Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
How and whether to map "cycling on the sidewalk" infrastructure is a hotly-debated topic within OpenStreetMap. There are cycling advocates that argue that everywhere it is allowed it should be mapped separately, and there are those (like Tomas here) who argue that "cycleway:right=oneway" is correct, and anything more would misrepresent the amount of cycling provision here. Generally speaking, I suspect that people with the former view are in the majority and people who agree with Tomas the minority.
However, what is correct in any individual case depends on that individual case.
There does seem to be quite good Mapillary coverage here - see e.g. https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=54.674222222222&lng=25.272191666667027&z=17&pKey=505301730893404&focus=photo - and it does look like there's a strip of grass between the cycleway/sidewalk and the road, which would suggest that you were correct and Tomas was incorrect.
@Tomas%20Straupis do you have any comment on that?
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.

Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
You've changed a number of river names here, and people are wondering what the reason for that change was.
The river in OSM previously reflected the view in other older maps, such as OS OpenData StreetView from 2016 https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#15/51.6462/-1.8847/6 (see the "River Thames or Isis" and "River Churn" labels) and also OS OpenMap Local https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#15/51.6456/-1.8876/2 (again, "River Thames" and "River Churn" labels).
There's a discussion going on about this in the forum https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/possible-vandalism/126188 . Please do explain there what the reason for the change was. If you're unable to do that, we'll have to change the names back.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.

Kiedy czytam te komentarze w tłumaczeniu, widzę, że unyny napisało „rzeka jest rzeką, a strumień jest strumieniem na całej swojej długości”. Większość osób w OSM nie mapuje rzek i strumieni w ten sposób. https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rzeka-czy-strumien/125897/1 wydaje się być dyskusją na ten temat — zasugerowałbym, aby unyny dołączyło do tej dyskusji.
Pozdrawiam,
Andy Townsend (z grupy roboczej ds. danych)

When I read these comments in translation I see that unyny has written "a river is a river, and a stream is a stream along its entire length". This is not how most people in OSM map rivers and streams. https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rzeka-czy-strumien/125897/1 seems to be a discussion about this - I would suggest that unyny joins that discussion.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend (from the data working group)

Also these two relations:
< -4868091 | Fallagloon
< -4868069 | Bracaghreilly