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175056077 6 days ago

Hi any update on this? If not, I'll be starting a thread on the OSM Forums?

176028732 12 days ago

The rest I've changed them to residential areas.

176028732 12 days ago

I've corrected the size of it.

176028732 12 days ago

The entirety of this area isn't a military area. Just because it's called "Kharian Cantonment" doesn't mean that every part of it is military. That only applies to actual military bases.

175056077 25 days ago

> As a road does not connect across the border, as in the numerous examples above, your claim is wrong. You cannot cross here for literally 60 years. This is not a temporary closure as the examples you compared it to.

Yeah, and Pakistani's can't cross over into India - yet you foolishly tried to apply this logic to the N-5 Highway as well as the Kasur-Firozpur GT Roads, which are 4 lane highways.

When did visa policy ever become relevant to the classification of highways?

> The rest of your maps are not official - one is a relief agency and the other is real estate website. Only the official map you provided is relevant.

Okay, I'm here to discuss but please don't try to be misleading. The real estate map references an official Lahore City District Map. The real estate website didn't create the map.

Both official maps, the survey map and the Lahore city district map prove my point.

175056077 25 days ago

> It's rich for you to be so condescending when you argued ad nauseam in a most illogical way

You're such a rude person, I tried to solve this in civil manner - I invited you to several discussion both through changesets and inboxes, yet you stayed stubborn.

It's disappointing seeing you making comments like these.

175056077 25 days ago

You can refer it to the data working group - and please keep in the loop. However, I don't get how you claim the official maps support you.

The official maps have the following road classifications.

1. Motorway
2. GT Road.
3. Other "main road", what we call a "shah-rah" in Urdu

An example of this given on the map is the Lahore-Qasur Road, and the same colour has been used for the Barki Road.

> You were the one who tried to arbitrarily upgrade the priority of this road.

Yes backed by other maps, such as the official maps. I've given you my reasons. Your only reason is "the border is closed" which is the same reason you've been repeating. I've given you several reasons.

> The LCCI map is extremely crudely drawn

The line literally touch the border line, I don't understand how clear you want it to be. You tried claiming that the Burki road is somehow disconnected from the Indian road, even though you can literally see from satellite view the roads are physically connected.

175056077 26 days ago

I take it from your lack of response that you have no further objections?

175056077 29 days ago

The point I'm trying to make is that, in every situation - this has been labelled as a main highway.

For you to try and convince other people that it isn't, is merely an abitary choice that you're making, same with the Guru Nanak Highway, and all the other classification of highways you've changed.

175056077 about 1 month ago

Same with:
1. https://reliefweb.int/map/pakistan/pakistan-lahore-district-reference-map-september-2014
2. https://lcci.pk/core/uploads/2019/05/map.pdf

As well as the official surveys of Pakistan:

1. https://surveyofpakistan.gov.pk/SiteImage/Downloads/road_map_punjab.pdf
2. https://surveyofpakistan.gov.pk/SiteImage/Downloads/province_map_punjab.pdf

175056077 about 1 month ago

See this map of the Lahore district which has also labelled Barki Road as a "main road" right till border.

https://eproperty.pk/map/lahore/lahore-district-map.html

175056077 about 1 month ago

FWIW, Google Maps has also labelled it as a major highway right till the zero line.

175056077 about 1 month ago

The road DOES connect. You purposefully deleted the node that linked the two roads connected, otherwise it's perfectly visible from satellite footage that the road are linked. Again, you're making these arbitary decisions without having any sort of decisions. Barki Road is indeed linked to the Indian highway across the border.

The only instance where this logic applies is the Khem Karan road where there used to be road, but the road has been diverted towards some other village and the road falls short of the military posts on both sides. Your logic, again, doesn't apply at Barki road.

> D 060 to Akhurik-Gyumri Highway M-7 after

Bruh, how is that even comparable here? The U-7 or M-7 isn't even directly linked to D 060 on the Turkish side. The Barki Road is directly connected to NH703B highway here. It's literally visible from the satellite. Barki Road is an artery of the Lahore city, that connects it to the Indian border.

> Also the R63 in Azerbaijan at the town of Heydarabad

Again, not comparable. The highways are, once again, not directly linked, and the roads aren't any important arteries of any city, like Barki Road, and the NH703B. The road literally ceases to exist at Way #1360179049 - this is plainly visble from the Sky.

Same with the rest of your examples. What I find amusing is that you've attempted to use the Armenia-Turkey Border situation, ie. they are all closed. Yet all the major highways still retain their classification like:

1. Way #120580504 M-3 to D977 is the perfect example - a primary road connecting into a GT road, both retaining their classification, despite the borders remaining closed.

2. Did any of the highways connecting into Russia or Ukraine have their classification changed?

3. What about Egypt-Gaza border highway or Gaza-Israel, which has been destroyed?

175056077 about 1 month ago

I'm awaiting your reply.

175056077 about 1 month ago

Which highway are you referring to between Armenia and Turkey?

And it does not matter if the border is closed. It is still the same highway that continues to link it to the physical border, and by extension the Indian town across the border. That makes it a primary road.

I've given you several examples of highways that link to closed borders, yet you aren't even willing to consider the other opinion.

You've restricted access to parts of the road that are like 300-400 meters away from border/military complex (not even the zero line), which is something that you've done previously for most of the border highways.

175056077 about 1 month ago

Did the classification of highways change during COVID when all the borders around the world were closed?

175056077 about 1 month ago

Instead of being stubborn can you give an example of where the classification of highways have changed because of borders have been closed? The Russ-Ukranian highway classifications haven't changed, neither any border highways in Afghanistan, or Iran-Turkey border highways.

174502134 about 2 months ago

If you attempt to revert the Kartarpur road, or the Burki road highway classification through big edits. I will escalate this, next time.

174501369 about 2 months ago

No it doesn't. You've made this up, you've been given examples of this before as well. This also shows you understand it's a highway, but your only reasoning is political.

That is against OSM's on the ground rule.

173911358 about 2 months ago

It has been explained to you know several occasions that the visa policies between two nations has no relation to the classification of highways.

Please stop changing highways which connect borders to service roads. They are not service roads. Service roads are something comepletely different. This has been the norm across OpenStreetMap.