Hi, thanks for contributing to OpenStreetMap.

When editing ptv2 route relations the order of the ways in the relation should be ordered from the start -> end of the route following the path it takes, currently the order is wrong in the 519, 520, and 588 bus routes (relation/19546686, relation/19566455, relation/19505801).

osm.wiki/Relation:route#Order_matters

You can use OSMI to check for these issues (https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_routes&lon=148.01745&lat=-33.39023&zoom=16&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.50&overlays=ptv2_routes_invalid%2Cptv2_error_ways%2Cptv2_error_nodes)

Happy mapping!

Thanks for mentioning those notes, I didn't see them. I've finished adding the bus stops to the route relation in changeset/188644739 :)

order of stops fixed in changeset/188637469

Hi, thanks for adding bus stops to the route relations.

When editing ptv2 route relations, please ensure that the bus stops (highway=bus_stop nodes) are ordered at the beginning of the relation and have the role "platform". They shouldn't be placed after the route ways.

You can see if the routes are ordered properly here: https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_routes&lon=144.54421&lat=-38.19530&zoom=12&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.50&overlays=ptv2_routes_invalid%2Cptv2_error_ways%2Cptv2_error_nodes

Nevermind, I just learnt of this https://www.bendigo.vic.gov.au/about-us/news-and-media/council-gives-green-light-open-hargreaves-mall-vehicles. An interesting decision to open traffic up

Would motor_vehicle=delivery be more appropriate than motor_vehicle=yes? I'm pretty sure normal drivers are unable to drive here, only shop delivery. Also, have the bollards actually been removed or were they lowered when you surveyed them?

Hi, thanks for attempting to fix this.

The order of the ways in the route matters. I've fixed this in changeset/187615178

Thanks for adding this. There are gaps in the route relations (as seen here)

https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_routes&lon=145.08893&lat=-37.77190&zoom=16&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.50&overlays=ptv2_routes_invalid%2Cptv2_error_ways%2Cptv2_error_nodes

Would you be able to fix them?

I guess that makes sense, I don't normally map roads. I usually see osm.wiki/Relation:restriction turn restrictions used to stop illegal turns and turn=* to indicate turn lanes. If this doesn't hurt routing adding the lanes should be fine, I just don't usually see them mapped as separate ways

Hi,

You don't need to map individual lanes. The ways are usually only split up when there is physical separation

Hi SimplifiedCactus,

Thanks for contributing to OpenStreetMap.

The bus stop shelter (way/1548029826) does not need to be added to the bus route relation (relation/20411858), so I've removed it from that (changeset/187262774). You may also want to press "Q" on buildings you add to orthagonalise them (i.e. give them right angles).

Also, oneway=no is assumed to be the default for most ways and only really needs to be added when it is ambiguous as to if it is oneway or not. It's not necessarily wrong to add that tag though.

Everything else appears fine to me.

Happy mapping!

Sorry, I didn't notice you were using Vespucci, I imagine it's hard to edit long routes on mobile. iD editor is always a pain to work with relations too. In my experience JOSM is the easiest to use to fix route relations, but I've seen some contributors use this osm.wiki/Relatify which is just a website that is apparently easy to use (although it says it doesn't do train routes, I'm not sure if that's right as it should be very similar to bus and tram routes which it says it does).

Anyways, I tend to keep an eye on route relations using OSMI (https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_routes&lon=144.96258&lat=-37.31964&zoom=9&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.50&overlays=ptv2_routes_invalid%2Cptv2_error_ways%2Cptv2_error_nodes), so if any are broken and easily fixable I usually fix them within a week or so :)

Hi, thanks for your additions.

please remember to add the new ways to the route relations in the correct order

route=train

I've fixed this in changeset/186789763 and again in changeset/187158995

Hi, thanks for contributing to OpenStreetMap.

You don't need the "(now open)'' part of the name, the other tags are indicative of it being open already. The note can also be removed since it's open.

reverted: changeset/186683509

reverted: changeset/186683480

reverted: changeset/186683431

please stop adding bogus tourism=theme_park to osm

Hi Lockstar,

When editing ptv2 route relations, please ensure that the bus stops (platforms) are ordered at the beginning of the relation and have the role "platform". They shouldn't be placed after the route ways.

I fixed the order of bus stops and added the platform role to them in changeset/186561028

Hi, please don't add business nodes to the tram routes! Removed in changeset/185933676

Hi, thanks for contributing to OSM.

Looking at way/1539777283 and the surrounding ways, it appears to be one building rather than 10 buildings. This should be mapped as one way.

Happy mapping!
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