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#CrimeaІsUkraine #DWG #CrimeaMap #КримЦеУкраїна #ИхТамНет
Posted by pss34 on 10 December 2018 in English.The Ukrainian community is concerned about the possible negative impact on the project as a whole, the emergence of lawsuits from users of data and the subsequent decline of the project, and therefore restores the borders of Ukraine to the internationally recognized status. The recent decision of DWG ( https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes/DWG_2018-11-14_Crimea ) neglects the wide recognition of Crimea as an integral part of Ukraine expressed by numerous governments and international organizations (in particular, UN General Assembly Resolution 68/262 http://www.un.org/en/ga/68/resolutions.shtml / https://undocs.org/en/A/RES/68/262 ). DWG actions directed to cut off Crimea from the borders of Ukraine are considered to be inadequate to the interests of the project and are not recognized by law. Any blockages (bans) aimed against members who restored the border of Ukraine to the widely internationally recognized status will be seen as unjustified pressure on the entire community and usurpation of power in the OSM.
P.S.
“changing names or country information would require consensus from both the Ukrainian and Russian communities. It is unlikely that any such edit proposals will be able to achieve this.” (с) DWG //
Moreover, according to clause 4, a consensus should be reached between the Ukrainian and Russian communities on changing information about countries. There is no consensus - there is no reason to separate the Crimea from Ukraine.
CrimeaІsUkraine #DWG #CrimeaMap #КримЦеУкраїна #ИхТамНет
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Discussion
Comment from amapanda ᚛ᚐᚋᚐᚅᚇᚐ᚜ 🏳️🌈 on 10 December 2018 at 12:43
I think, given Ukrainain/Russian history and politics, the Ukrainians have a right to be upset and angry. However OSM has a long standing rule, of “country borders should match de facto physical control”. You’re unhappy with the outcome of that rule, when applied to Crimea. What rule do you think we should use instead?
In the mean time, you can set up your own tileserver displaying borders as you want. They do that in India. That might solve your problem?
Please stop posting the same thing again and again.
Comment from giggls on 10 December 2018 at 15:29
As Openstreetmap is a world-wide project the border you are talking about is not the only disputed border in the world.
Openstreetmap is a data project in the first place, thus the rendered map is just one of many available versions.
Google uses different maps for different countries. For Openstreetmap doing this on the main map is not an option for many reasons.
Comment from Vincent de Phily on 10 December 2018 at 17:26
How many more times are we going to see this copy-pasted diary entry ? Please stop spaming the same message again and again, all the arguments have been given already, more posts will only suceed in irritating readers.
Comment from pss34 on 19 December 2018 at 14:55
OK, guys, you can support DWG position or not, but my work is done: Crimean peninsula is marked as it was earlier. Here in Ukraine we will never give the occupants any chance to legalize their actions. If you don’t stop them now, the next will be your country. Who knows.