OpenStreetMap

Last week, the climate officer from my local county council reached out to me to see whether “we” (i.e. OSM) had locations for drinking_water:refill mapped. (She used to be the heritage officer, so she knows well what I do).

After some confusion about what she meant (I thought holy wells…), I found that there was one mapped as amenity=drinking_water, but without the drinking_water:refill tag.

I presume the reason she is asking is that the council wants to install more, but doesn’t know where there are already some.

Some more research revealed that there are at least two providers in Ireland, both use GoogleMaps, one not very successfully: EcoFil. In agreement with the OpenStreetMap Ireland board, I sent emails to both companies to ask whether they could make their datasets open giving the county council analysis as one example for the usefulness of #OpenData in this case, pointing out that they could also benefit from a complete dataset.

(overpass-turbo for Republic of Ireland)

Refill Ireland sticker

I remembered that I had mapped some refill stations along a cycle path and spent some hours tidying the tags using reason, Mapillary and Bing Streetside. Some fixmes might also have been added…

Me being me, I’ve also started some short videos on how to map the refill amenities. I’m also adding drinking_water:refill:self_service=yes/no to the ones I’m mapping, because I think it might be important for very shy people or people who don’t want anyone else touching their bottle. One of the providers (Refill Ireland) also happens to have that option in their app. I didn’t know that when I came up with the idea, though. The data in the app is not up to date, by the way.

Video 1: Creating a preset for OSMAnd

Video 2: Adding refill options to a shop with OSMAnd

Discussion

Comment from philippec on 18 June 2023 at 08:38

Why do you make short videos of it ? It is impossible to go back in time.

Comment from b-unicycling on 18 June 2023 at 10:00

I’m afraid I don’t understand your argument about going back in time. I make shorts to prove how little time it takes to map certain things.

Comment from philippec on 18 June 2023 at 10:04

It is much too quick for my understanding and learning to try it myself. Of course I could record it with my smartphone.

Comment from LySioS on 18 June 2023 at 10:49

Great job !

Contrats 👏

Comment from b-unicycling on 18 June 2023 at 11:49

@philippec: Fair enough, it is probably a bit fast. I was planning on doing a longer video, but I haven’t found any other refill places yet. I can’t map the same place twice.

The official tags are explained on the wiki, though: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water:refill.

Comment from InsertUser on 18 June 2023 at 14:22

I found that there was one mapped as amenity=drinking_water, but without the drinking_water:refill tag.

The Mapcomplete theme for amenity=drinking_water, seems to use bottle=yes rather than drinking_water:refill for these amenities. Including this tag, does show a few more points (please forgive the watering can icon).

Comment from b-unicycling on 18 June 2023 at 23:32

@InsertUser: It’s the same on EveryDoor, they don’t use the refill tag, but the bottle=yes. No harm using both, just in case, in you want to go to that effort.

Comment from APneunzehn74 on 19 June 2023 at 17:32

Thanks for the memory of this day. I knew refill…although I forgot…too many other things on my mind. ☺️ Right today I went to a coffee shop, with a roasting house, water was offered to refill the drinking bottles, and I realized that a few weeks ago I had visited a coffee shop at another place with the same great service, now both have their refill tags. Greetings Andreas

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