OpenStreetMap

My OSM User Journey

Posted by Fiftyfour on 21 May 2021 in English.

I came to Openstreetmap.org (OSM) from the OsmAnd mobile app because I found the numerous options in OsmAnd too intimidating. When I looked at OSM on my phone’s browser, I was surprised that the search bar and directions button were missing. I was also surprised to see the zoom-in and zoom-out buttons still being used when people use their fingers on their phones. I recognised the “show my location” icon.

i tapped on a point of interest (POI) on the map expecting to be presented with information about the POI, but instead I was given a series of options. These options were “directions from/to here”, “add a note”, “show address”, “query features”, “centre map here”.

I chose “show address” expecting to be presented with all the information about the selected POI. Instead I got the name of the business and the business address within a search results page. There seemed to be 3 search engines (Internal, Nominatim and Geonames) used to find the address, which just added to my confusion. There was no option to set the address as my destination address, which was disappointing.

I chose the same POI, but this time I chose the option “query features”. A results page appeared listing the “nearby” and “enclosing” features rather than just presenting the POI details. The POI was listed in the results and upon selecting it I was presented with more information about the POI than just the address, but there was still no option to set the POI as my destination address.

The next option I chose was to “add a note” which is a lovely idea with concise help explaining its use. The “centre map here” option worked as per my expectations.

When I chose “directions to here”, my POI turned to a red map pin. When I chose “directions from here”, my POI turned to a green map pin. The usual “directions search box” for a map didn’t appear.

I decided to look at the buttons on the right side of the map. I tapped on the Map Layers button to be presented with 5 additional map layers in addition to the Standard layer that I was currently using. I tried to add several map layers to my existing map, but it didn’t work. I quickly realised that the Map Layers were really alternative maps. Later, I noticed near the bottom of the Map Layers that there were 3 “overlays for troubleshooting the map” which added to the confusion about the the term layers. Map Layers should really be renamed Map Types.

Next I tapped on “i” icon which presented the map key (legend) which changed depending upon the selected map. Nice touch. The Share Icon gives you the option to download a PNG file of the map. Unfortunately, I couldn’t add the marker to the map. The remaining two options were add a note and query a feature which were duplicates of the tap options mentioned earlier.

I tapped the menu option which revealed the map Search box, Directions button, History, GPS Traces, User Diaries, Copyright, Help, About and OSM Account links. I typed an address in the search box and I was presented with the results as before, but again there was no option to get directions.

I tapped the directions button, which presented me with From/To locations and mode of transport. There was no option to use my current location, which seems basic functionality to me. I typed in my two addresses and looked at mode of transport. There was no option for public transport, but there were duplicates for Bicycle, Car and Foot which made things confusing unnecessarily. I tapped Go and I finally got directions. Unfortunately, only one route was offered, while I was expecting 2 or 3 routes to choose. I couldn’t clear the From and To fields when I tried more directions, which is a major problem to me.

I tapped on History which showed changes to the map which weren’t really relevant to me as a user just like the GPS traces. The user diaries is a lovely idea to attract users. The Copyright link was interesting, especially, finding out that governments were listed as contributors for providing their data. I assumed contributors were individuals, but encouraging governments to contribute their data is very clever.

The help section seems to offer duplicate services. The Help Forum, Mailing lists, Forums and IRC are duplicate services with the information stored in 4 different locations with possibly the same questions and questions duplicated. Ideally, theses services should be consolidated into one service so that users only need to look in one location for questions and answers. Similarly, switch2osm and the Welcome Mat are duplicate resources for organisations. Switch2osm is clearly the superior resource although it doesn’t seem to ask organisations to contribute their data back to OSM like the Welcome Mat. Surprisingly, the OSM Wiki is listed last in the help section when it should be the first resource a user looks for answers. The Beginners Guide should be removed from the help section as it only caters for mappers, while the wiki is more welcoming as it recognises users, mappers and developers.

In conclusion, OSM doesn’t seem to really cater for the expectations of general map users. It seems to me to be a technical resource for mappers whose needs are less demanding than general map users. I think it is unfortunate that OSM does not try to attract general map users who made only make a couple of contributions (home, work address).

Please see this post as constructive criticism as that is my intention. These are merely suggestions to improve OSM and in no way do I expect these suggestions to be adopted by OSM. Please don’t take offence as all I want to do is open a dialogue.

Discussion

Comment from andy mackey on 21 May 2021 at 11:18

You are correct it is mainly for mappers, that is editors of the map. It works for me. Sharing a link with a marker works for me, using a Win 10 or Linux desktops PCs I would not want to edit on a phone or tablet much other than just nodes.

Comment from n76 on 21 May 2021 at 16:44

I do not recommend OsmAnd for friends and family for the very reasons you give regarding the user interface. There are a number of other apps/projects that use OpenStreetMap data which give a much nicer user interface. In the past I recommended Maps.me and at present I suggest Magic Earth.

Comment from giggls on 21 May 2021 at 22:26

You know that the map on osm.org is mainly for mappers rater than users of our data? UI is nice to have and patches are certainly welcome, but as always in FOSS projects if you want to improve the project you will have to contribute.

Comment from GOwin on 22 May 2021 at 05:33

I believe this captures the same sentiment generated by OSM for new contributors. Thank you for sharing.

If you’re keen to understand OSM better, try the https://osm.org/wiki/Beginners’_guide, or the any of the self-paced learning modules from https://learnosm.org. These can show you how to contribute data (add/edit/fix) to the map, if that’s your goal.

I wonder how you came about getting OsmAnd in the first place. It’s not one of the friendliest OSM data consumer map out there, but it’s a feature-full app if you can get beyond the steep learning curve.

If you’re looking for a more user-friendly app, give Organic Maps a whirl. The interface is superior to OsmAnd, but there are less features too – but it will probably meet the needs of general map users. I think it’s available on Apple, too. With an OSM account, you should be able to add/edit simple features, too.

Another one to try out is Mapy.CZ.

Comment from Fiftyfour on 28 May 2021 at 08:19

Thank you for your comments.

www.openstreetmap.org is probably the top destination in the OSM ecosystem when people read openstreetmap contributors on a map. When they reach www.openstreetmap.org to use maps, I imagine they would be underwhelmed with the OSM experience as I was when I first used the map. This experience damages the whole OSM community, even the apps that are based on OSM. OSM should be the prime example of OSM to attract more users and contributors which will grow the OSM ecosystem. I don’t understand why the OSM app developers are not trying to improve OSM, as that would attract more people to their products.

Andy, I was able to add a marker to the map. but the marker wasn’t added to the downloaded map.

GOwin and n76 thank you for the recommended mobile apps. In the end, I decided to use Magic Earth for my map needs. When I tried Magic Earth I was told that I needed to switch on mobile data as there were no offline maps, but I had downloaded the maps earlier. I raised the issue with Magic Earth. Early days.

Thank you GOwin for the learnosm.org link which is an excellent resource and which is also linked from the Magic Earth help. When I typed in “openstreet map” in the Play Store, OSMAND was the only result, although Maps.me was listed as “You Might Also Like”. I found the dog too kooky.

Comment from GOwin on 28 May 2021 at 08:35

@Fiftyfour

You can edit OSM features instantaneously, but except for OsmAnd (with their Osmand Live feature), it will take a few weeks for downstream apps to reflect the change.

By the way, Organic Maps is a community-driven, privacy-oriented fork of that kooky looking app, Maps.Me. :wink:

Comment from n76 on 29 May 2021 at 12:53

@Fiftyfour - Maps downloaded for another app like OsmAnd are not seen by or used by Magic Earth. You should be able to see and manage Magic Earth downloaded maps within the app.

@Gowin - Until I saw your comment I was unaware of the Organic Maps project. Looks good and resolves the issues I was starting to have with Maps.me For those with Android who I’ve recommended maps.me in the past I can suggest they transition to Organic Maps. Unfortunately it looks like the iOS version is only in a development form at the moment: When you select the link for iOS you get to a Apple Test Flight page and when you search the iOS store it is not there.

Comment from mikelmaron on 30 May 2021 at 11:28

Thanks for the detailed reflections @Fiftyfour. As others commented, the site is mainly for mappers, but I don’t think that’s clear and you’ve pointed to a lot of detailed ways that purpose is not intuitive either.

Comment from znrgl on 2 June 2021 at 12:42

Oh yeah, I totally agree that openstreetmap.org is mainly useful for mappers and for, uh, the kind of “browsing the map” that you’d do flipping through an atlas, and that this could be made clearer.

Alternatives are an issue, though. For a long time, whenever I wanted to look up a place in my browser, I either looked it up on my phone, which is bad for my wrists, or I… went to openstreetmap.org and opened the edit mode so I could click all the POIs. Is it comfortable? no. Does it make sense? no. But I hadn’t found a usable-to-me OSM-based thing for that purpose yet. I knew sites like https://www.openstreetbrowser.org, but those are a bit complicated, too.

Recently, however, I found something that works for me, it’s Qwant Maps: https://www.qwant.com/maps/ I can click a POI and get all the info, I can link people to places without having to send them the coordinates, I’m happy.

Comment from Fiftyfour on 6 June 2021 at 07:50

Thanks for your comments.

@znrgl, thanks for the link to qwant maps which to me is a perfect example of how OSM should work for users. OSM should be for users and mappers. Each user is a potential mapper.

A mapper must use an editor to change the map so it really isn’t correct to say OSM is just for mappers as there is a user mode and a mapper mode. The user mode needs to be more like qwant maps.

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