Purely political? Huh?

What’s wrong with tagging the functional classification of a road?

It may not be YOUR definition of trunk road, but it is established within the wiki.

That’s clearly a trunk road as defined by the wiki. It’s also a continuation of road segments, which you have edited as trunk roads.

Trust me, I’ve been involved in this discussion. I’ve seen the Arizona channel in Slack as well. I was merely pointing out the almost surgically precise way it was done. Another user had inquired why a certain road he thought should be primary, wasn’t primary. He and I had a discussion about all of that, including FC. I also told him to join the AZ slack and to discuss his concerns there.

Thanks. I edit at a high zoom level and tell myself "go back and fix those," then get sidetracked and completely forget.

It looks like you have removed functional classification from Tucson. I could be wrong, but almost all of the streets line up with AZDOT's FC map, except the ones that bumped down from primary.

osm.wiki/User_talk:Txemt#State_of_Georgia

osm.wiki/User_talk:Txemt#State_of_Georgia

It is written. It says "In 2009, it was proposed that the Highway Functional Classification System maps created by GADOT be utilized so that there be consistent classification of roads across the state." This sentence was changed a few days ago from "It is recommended" to what I just quoted here.

Even the definition of the rural minor doesn't fit the change here. It only fits that it's a county road, nothing else. This fits more in line with the Rural Major definition of county road, which is "major county and city streets." Because this particular county road connects the Principal Arterial road in Buffton the the Minor Arterial road in Arlington, it becomes a major county road, including the county roads in Calhoun County.

Any road that comes off of this road would be deemed a Rural Minor road, because it's starting out the end user on his trip. If you think of how water flows, Rural Minors are streams, Rural Majors are canals, Minor Arterials are small rivers (Red River), while Principal Arterials are the major rivers (Mississippi River).

Have you looked at the ArcGIS for Georgia?

I used to have the same way of thinking, a long time ago. Just because it's a state route makes it must be a certain type of road. The Georgia wiki (that we've all come to "love" now) is slightly outdated, but the FHWA gives a clear definition of what rural minor and major collectors are here https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/processes/statewide/related/highway_functional_classifications/section03.cfm#Toc336872985

The road between Bluffton and Arlington fits the major collector definition of "Link these places with nearby larger towns and cities or with Arterial routes." The series of county roads between these two towns actually connects to the larger picture of connecting a US highway to a Georgia state highway. They may be county roads but GDot determines that they serve a higher purpose.

If you want to go along with all county roads need to be tertiary, then there are a lot of unpaved roads which would get the upgrade, as there are many unpaved roads which are county roads, throughout the state.

If you want to look at something interesting, US 377 between where it connects with US 277 (SW of Rock Springs) and Junction, in Texas is classified as a Major Collector. Yes, a US Highway is classified as a collector, not an arterial road. TxDot has deemed it as such. There are always anomalies within the system of functional classification.

It's not just blindly using the HFCS for everything, Georgia is doing that. There are a lot of things that we as editors can do to help the HFCS along within the map system. The incident that helped start this debate is a good example. Georgia may classify some dirt roads as Major or Minor collectors, but as an editor, we can click that it's unpaved to give the end user a lesser chance of being routed down the road.

I'm willing to update the Georgia wiki to make it a clearer picture for anyone else. The last edit I saw on that page was from you a couple of days ago where you changed the word "recommended" to "proposed." No real major changes have been done to that page in almost a decade, so I am in belief the weeds need to be pulled and it be given some fresh air.

Let's talk about functional classification in the state of Georgia. I'm all ears. I believe we're going about this the wrong way and we seem to be at each other's throats. You see the roads one way while I see the roads another way. Neither one of us is wrong, but maybe we can work out a resolution. Let's work on updating the 2009 wiki page.

Actually, all changes you made in Clay County, Georgia do not align with Georgia functional classification as laid out by the Georgia Department of Transportation. https://itos.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=962a2591f91a4303aeafe016ba8db96b

The changes you made to the road from Buffton do not align with Georgia highway classification.

I've answered this question before. According to https://itos.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=962a2591f91a4303aeafe016ba8db96b and to osm.wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state) those are mapped correctly.

I'm merely mapping out how the Georgia Department of Transportation has defined roads and highways within the state as well as the Georgia wiki for FC. If you have any issues with how they classify roads, please take it up with them, not I. I have no control over that.

All of your arguments about what a road should be or shouldn't be are your opinions based on the wiki links you provided. According to the wiki links and the Georgia link I have provided, those roads should be tertiary or secondary roads with an HFCS classification respectively.

I understand that the page may be from 2009, but it's still out there as a solid piece of instruction for Georgia. If I were editing in Texas or Alabama, I wouldn't use that reference, I'd use the reference for that specific state. I also don't believe it has caused any confusion. I did some research before starting on this project. I found that wiki, found a good source for classification of roads within the state, and I set about doing it. I have found the only roads classified in the state are Principal Arterials. Everything else is just a "I think this road will be this level of highway."

I've read the proposal, but it's just that....a proposal. I've also read the wiki discussion on trunk roads. I've also had a long conversation about functional classification with TxDot back when I was editing for another GPS app and the person in charge of that state. I wanted to get a better understanding of how it worked, how it was decided a road gets the classification, as well as how they determine updates and when they do updates. It was a very eye opening discussion.

I've also stated somewhere, every state will have anomalies within their system. Dirt roads may be classed as something they shouldn't be classified as, at least to the untrained eye, but each DOT has a reason for classifying the roads they classify.

Promoting streets and dirt roads based on Georgia DOT's functional classification site https://itos.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=962a2591f91a4303aeafe016ba8db96b and the OSM wiki for Georgia in regards to functional classification osm.wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state)

I'm only promoting streets and dirt roads based on Georgia DOT's functional classification site https://itos.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=962a2591f91a4303aeafe016ba8db96b and the OSM wiki for Georgia in regards to functional classification osm.wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state)

I’ll look at it and fix it in a day or two. Although, I may need a little more background/info.