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15801746 over 2 years ago

No problem. Sorry that I took it the wrong way. Maybe I just got up on the wrong side of the bed that day.

15801746 over 2 years ago

If you find that someone (including me) has made an error, or has violated official OSM style guides, and you know how to fix it, then go ahead and fix it. That's how contributing works, and you don't need my permission to do it.

I can appreciate that as a new contributor you will have questions. I've been contributing for over a decade, and there's obviously still things I don't fully understand. However, if you were "trying to say that OSM style shouldn't have baseball or kickball fields named as such" then you should have said that to begin with. What you did instead was to question the source of my data (you specified a road name), then when I provided my source, you called it "suspicious." It was incredibly insulting. I apologize if I overreacted.

15801746 over 2 years ago

Having given it a little more thought; no, I do not want you to remove the names that you deemed "suspicious." I told you, I think I had a map produced by the land owner. It was too long ago to remember the specific details. That doesn't make it false. Please do your due diligence before deleting data that I, or any other OSM contributor has put work into.

15801746 over 2 years ago

That's your call.

15801746 over 2 years ago

It was a very long time ago. I think I had a tri-fold pamphlet map from the school.

105632004 over 2 years ago

Thanks for that example. I get it now.

15801746 over 2 years ago

I'm not sure what you're asking. Why would you want me to delete road names?

133346478 over 2 years ago

That's less specific. Thanks anyway.

133346478 almost 3 years ago

Can you be more specific, please?

105632004 almost 3 years ago

What is the specific location in this changeset that has a diferent speed limit in each direction? Have you fixed it? If not, I would appreciate it if you fixed it, and pointed it out to me so that I can see an example done correctly.

You also said that you have been mapping speed limit signs. You are correct that I'm not getting it. I haven't seen any point labeled as a speed limit sign. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.

105632004 over 4 years ago

Surfaces:
I disagree with your conclusion. Surface=dirt is more descriptive than surface=unpaved. The wiki clearly states that "unpaved" could mean any number of possible surfaces, and is not limited to different types of dirt.

Also surface=dirt is indisputably more descriptive and more useful than no data at all.

I do agree that gravel, compact, etc... is more descriptive than just "dirt," but I freely admit that it is also outside of my area of interest. I don't see any value in stopping to evaluate the dirt, because I don't think anyone using the map really cares. However, for a great number of people there is value in knowing whether a road is dirt so that they can route around it. I would argue that a great many more people want to rout around the dirt than care what kind of dirt it is.

As I told you before, when I drive past a road I look. If I see dirt, I log dirt, and I make an edit, because from my perspective dirt is dirt.

If you have a different perspective, please go and analyze the dirt, and make your own determination as to what kind of dirt it is. Go do your own survey. I'm not going to do that for you. Feel free to record whether the dirt is made of gravel or compact gravel or crushed seashells or gold flake. Get as granular as you like (pun intended). I promise I won't try to stop you.

105632004 over 4 years ago

Private roads:
So, you are trying to tell me that in the state of New Hampshire access to a private road is not implicitly restricted, and furthermore that signage indicating the road is privately owned does not expressly restrict assess? I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Lawyers have been debating the definition and circumstances surrounding private roads in NH since long before you or I were born, but one thing is sure: Private roads are private property to which access is limited. In short, you may use a private road only if you own it, by express permission, or if it is an easement to your own property. Thus in the state of NH Ownership=private most definitely means Access=private. If you think I'm wrong, go try parking on one overnight and see what happens.

105632004 over 4 years ago

"speed limits that are different in each direction" - Thanks for that. there are a couple of spots that I am aware of where this is the case, and I was not sure how to tag these

"surface#Values" - OK. I read it again. I'm not sure why you asked me to, but I did.

"I found at least one street that you tagged with access=private" Was it at least one street, or at most one street? I believe you are being hyperbolic again. Either way, which street or streets was it? I very recently did a survey of this area specifically to identify private roads, so I would like to identify the error.

103088873 over 4 years ago

Here is another one. I have not changed anything about it. If you can figure out what's going on with it, I'd like to know.
osm.org/#map=19/43.39534/-71.01828

103088873 over 4 years ago

OK. I left a similar comment on that changeset.

3440876 over 4 years ago

They have no meaning to me. There were duplicate objects, with identical geometry to bodies of water, on top of the bodies of water. The water bodies had no names, and the named objects had no descriptive tags, causing "Area has no descriptive tags" warnings. I just moved the names to the bodies of water and deleted the tagless objects. My best guess is that they are an artifact of the Tiger import, but they could be anything. I was just trying to clear the warnings.

103088873 over 4 years ago

You are correct, and I apologize. I have been meaning to get back to you, and I just never think of it when I'm logged in. Thank you for following up.

You are probably also correct about the names of the water bodies being incorrect, but they kept coming up as "Issues" and I couldn't find or think of another way to clear them. What they were was "areas" on top of water bodies. they had all identical points as the water bodies but they were separate objects. In each case the area had those numbers in the name field but no "descriptive tag" (causing the "Issue" flag) and the water body had a descriptive tag, but no name. In order to clear the issue I combined the two objects. I figured that number must be some kind of identifier to someone, or must correlate to a name in some database somewhere. Sometimes you can find names on USGS maps or on town tax maps, but I wasn't able to find names for any of these.

If you know of a better way to clear these issues, I'm open to suggestions.

103022388 over 4 years ago

I had no idea, nor any intention of getting into an edit war with anyone. As I said before, it was a mistake. Unfortunately I rebooted my computer and my browser re-opened at that spot, so I made the same mistake a second time over the top of your edit. I'm sorry that I changed your correction. It was unintentional.

As far as what you should or shouldn't keep in mind for the next time you wish to communicate to communicate with me, it doesn't really matter. I don't know you and I don't care to. I've had enough rude and hostile people in my life. I don't need another.

In general if you communicate civilly, people respond in kind. Feel free to try it on the next person.

103022388 over 4 years ago

I can not show you evidence that Loveren's Mill Road has been completely resurfaced, because I loaned my surface sampling equipment to NASA for the next Mars rover (the one with the really cool flexible metal tires). I can not show you the call for bids, because I had to sign an NDA when I reviewed them. I can not show you the discussions held in town meetings, because that's just absurd. One can not show another a discussion. I can only pray to great flying spaghetti monster above that what you request are not the actual prerequisites to editing the map. If they are, then I am guilty of Stalin-esque levels of crimes against humanity via my contributions to the map.

Here, to the best of my ability, is my account of the horrific incident, Cthulu take me if I deviate even the slightest from my honest recollection. I looked right, I saw dirt, I logged dirt. Some time later I made an edit.

It is entirely conceivable that I am not in fact the quizmaphadarack, the infallible mapping super being, that you seem to think I am. In which case I implore you to consider the possibility (however slim that possibility may be) that I made a mistake.

I for my part "find it _extremely_ hard to believe" that you are "extremely confused" by my "efforts to classify parts of Loveren's Mill Road as dirt." If true, and you are "extremely confused" then I must conclude that you are extremely stupid, thus extremely unqualified to review anyone's changes to the map. However I do not think you are actually stupid, so I do not believe you are actually confused.

I do, however believe that you are being extremely hyperbolic, and extremely antagonistic. Two character flaws which I find extremely distasteful. I'm not alone in seeing these traits as distasteful, and I suspect its not the first time you've heard this.

So if your intent is to make a correction, go ahead and log in and make it. It's not that hard. If your intent is to get me to fix my own mistake, then a simple, "hey, I think you made a mistake," would have done just fine. If your intent is to start a flame war over the surface of single road, or over my edits in general, then you needn't bother. Your self righteous pedantry is not worth any more of my time than I have taken to write this, and only because I find this slightly amusing at the moment.

I contribute to the map because I'm some kind of a weirdo, and that's my idea of a good time. Its not because I'm seeking your approval, nor because I wish to argue about the surface of a minor road in a small town that I was passing through on my way to somewhere else with someone who has never even been there.

88574510 over 5 years ago

No worries. Thanks for looking out.