mod22's Comments
| Changeset | When | Comment |
|---|---|---|
| 170696838 | 4 months ago | >If that is the reason for the change, then you should adapt your app to get along with the data as mapped in OSM, not the other way around. Sure, this approach is more than routine to us by now. That being said, if we detect some clear inconsistency in the results, then it feels appropriate to do the correction in OSM directly so others also profit from it. Indeed, some months ago we detected vandalism in UK counties that had managed to stay under the radar, and helped correct it. To add to the latest comment, this is what I already pointed out in my first reply: If the counties still have practical use, then a "historical" tag sounds inadequate. Seeing this tagging next to the information on Wikipedia, I (erroneously) assumed the counties were evidently no longer in use, hence the edit. It was never my intention to step on other people's toes. If the changes are incorrect, then by all means please feel free to rollback them. In retrospect, certainly we could have started this conversation on better footing. Still, I hope this has sparked some constructive discussion and I'm glad to see the boundaries are taken seriously by the community. (In my experience, not every OSM community cares as much about them, sadly.) |
| 170696838 | 4 months ago | Well, yes, in general I don't hesitate to contact the community if there is some ambiguity. But in this case to me the edit was clear: The boundaries were consistently tagged as historic (so no longer in use) and that agreed with the information to be found on Wikipedia saying they had been abolished. It's by far not the first case I see where the admin structure changes and boundaries become obsolete, but not all of the related tagging is updated, potentially causing inconsistencies on data consumers' end. Nominatim has more uses than just address data. In my case the app I help maintain relies on the full administrative boundary hierarchy that it delivers. Objects marked as historic shouldn't even appear in Nominatim results. In this case it was only due to the inconsistent tagging that counties were still appearing there. |
| 170696838 | 4 months ago | Yes, like I wrote in the previous comment, if the counties are still used in practice by local communities, then boundary=historic sounds wrong. That being said, the tag was not introduced in this changeset. I think the best way to proceed is to take the matter to the relevant OSM communities, discuss why the tag was added in the first place, and figure out what is the most appropriate way of representing truth on the ground. |
| 170696838 | 4 months ago | The counties were tagged with boundary=historic and Wikipedia mentions they were abolished at some point, so I assumed they were no longer in use. If as you say they are indeed used in practice, then it seems that the boundary=historic tag is incorrect. It sounds like boundary=place would be more appropriate then? |
| 157839676 | about 1 year ago | コメントしてくれてありがとうございます。はい、確かに誤字です。修正しました。 |
| 157801672 | about 1 year ago | Thanks for clarifying. I noticed there are a couple more such place=suburb like 麻布. Those should probably be deleted too. |
| 157709429 | about 1 year ago | Hi, yes, I'm familiar with the address structure. I was just adding these via the overlay in StreetComplete. Is it tagging it the wrong way? (If so, it might be a bug.) |
| 157500594 | about 1 year ago | |
| 157500594 | about 1 year ago | こんにちは、編集を確認していただき、ありがとうございます。OSMウィキによるとタグを追加しなくてもよいなんですが(osm.wiki/Relation:boundary#Way_tags)。日本ではこんな場合必ずタグを付ける方針になっていますか? |