mitzip's Comments
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| 30266060 | Both of you bring up good points. I don't think OSM is properly prepared, policy-wise, to deal with the new wave of countries that will be coming into existence in the future. They won't be the traditional type. Even with the traditional type there is currently no central authority that approves new nations or even consensus on what constitutes a new country outside of OSM. While Liberland does have a government, it will have no concept of a state run police force and future countries may not even have a government like we're used to seeing and instead be based on contract. This situation will be akin to the introduction of the internet for the MPAA, the automobile for the horse, bitcoin for banking, etc. The "old guard" does not understand it. https://twitter.com/haydentiff/status/593488159335391234 OSM has the opportunity to lead the world in this respect and I think is a great topic for the community. Is there a location (forum or something) where this discussion can start? |
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| 30266060 | The "line of control" language cited by wikipedia, if true to reality on the ground (and it seems so), would represent what travelers would actually likely encounter. That would indeed be me most accurate, and I think a sane move for OSM. Out of curiosity, what events would be required to take place for Liberland to be recognized by OSM? If Croatia and Serbia recognize Liberland, that would make Liberland's declared borders define a "line of control" and therefore reality on the ground for travelers. Would that be enough? |
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| 30266060 | I appreciate you taking the time to look into this further. Are you proposing, for OSM purposes, to set the boundary along the current main navigable channel of the Danube? As in your visualization? |
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| 30266060 | @4rch, shouldn't we be concerned with accuracy instead of what google has done? For instance, I'd like to think that Serbian and Croatian govt. GIS data would take precedence over the laziness or incompetence of Google, Bing, et tal. http://geoportal.nipp.hr/hr/application/view It's undisputed, by the only two countries that matter, from the two national GIS links I've provided that the borders of Croatia and Serbia should not include within them the parcel being called Liberland by some folks, whether it's labeled Liberland or not. If you notice, there are a number of other parcels of land along this stretch of the Danube that also should not be included within the border of either country as per their own official maps. This is an opportunity for OSM to do what it's supposed to, be the most accurate map in the world. If someone makes OSM more accurate here along the Danube are you going to remove it again? |
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| 30266060 | Arch, According to Serbian Govt. GIS, that area is Croatian territory. Why did you map it as Serbian? |