Hi, I thought I fixed this in 2024 but now I'm not sure what happened. Be aware: there is no shower here. There used to be toilets, showers, and laundry but now only toilets, with the rest boarded up. The building has restrooms only, to accomodate campers, and is scheduled to be demolished and rebuilt. I will fix this in another changeset.

Hi, these footpaths SW of Tess Conover Way - aren't they on private property? I'm pretty sure the church across the street owns all that property. Have they opened it to the public? If not, perhaps access=private would be appropriate?

Please read source=* for an explanation of the proper use of 'sources' in a Changeset. 'Survey' means you were 'there and saw it firsthand'. 'Local knowledge' means you have 'some affiliation with the area (resident, place of work, frequent visits) and knows this first hand or from others in the area.'

If I go there and map based on what I see, that's 'survey'. If I map based on talking to the park superintendent, or local folks, that's 'local knowledge'.

There is some pretty poor mapping here. Your sources are out of date. I removed the name from a section of the CCC (Orange) trail with a note that this was no longer part of the trail and not visible. You put the name back. Why are you making changes to good mapping based on poor sources? You cite 'survey' as one of your sources. Did you really go on-site and survey this?

There is no such thing as a 'firebreak trench'. A actual firebreak in the Pinelands is more like 50ft wide. What you are mapping here are probably plow lines, narrow cuts through the woods created by the Forest Fire Service for their exclusive use, usually one time, to access a wildfire or prescribed burn area. They are supposed to revert to nature and disappear over time afterwards. Which they will NOT do if people map them, walk them, and ride bikes on them.

It would really be better if you only mapped paths based on aerial imagery (NOT elevation changes), or on-site surveys with GPS.

Sorry no I didn't because haven't driven by there since then to make 100% sure, but I see you just fixed it so all good now.

Courtyards at Smothville => Smithville?

Hi, I see you added Pilgrim Lake Camp Grounds in New Gretna to OpenStreetMap. That's good, but the campground was already on the map, and now we have two. Yours is a node, with lots of good information (are you the campground owner?) The older mapping is an area, which I tagged some years ago, noting it as the approximate boundary. Should we merge the two together so the map only shows a single one? If so, which is the correct website? They both seem to work but show different pages for the same campground.

Hi, I took a closer look at this and I see you have fixed an error introduced in the map a few days ago by BPTT in changeset/131750093 "added / aligned roads and paths to aerial imagery". I think this is one of several errors BPTT made to Batona near here. Probably does not understand that the trail often follows footpaths near roads and is not visible on aerial. Is there any way we can ask BPTT to stop?

No, these are not paths, they are tracks. The wiki says: "A path is too narrow for use by 4-wheel vehicles". These happen to be wide enough. But they are part of the trail, which does not allow horses or bicycles 'by default', and in addition the poor condition of the bridge between the two segments means foot traffic only.

Hi, I noticed you deleted bicycle=no and horse=no from 3 segments of Batona Trail. Bicycles and horses are not allowed here. Why have you decided otherwise?

In addition, most or all of these were already mapped, with an area (not a node), the correct tag highway=services, and the correct name according to the operator njta.com. Somebody should revert this.

I managed to get out there with GPS, camera, and maps. Your changes to Batona Trail are correct and I was wrong. The trail DOES join Goodwater Rd about 600 ft before the turn to Quaker Bridge, and it DOES stay on Lower Forge Rd about 300 ft north of that intersection. I apologize for the mistake.

The only thing left to fix is to add segments to the trail relation so it is continuous again, and I will do that in another changeset.

No, it is NOT continuous. You introduced a break in the Batona trail relation when you incorrectly joined it to Goodwater Rd just S of Quaker Bridge, and then deleted the path to where it crosses Lower Forge Road. There is now a discontinuity in the trail relation.

relation/4129027

If you can't see it, take a look at the presentation of OSM data on hiking.waymarkedtrails.org:

https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=17.0/39.7094/-74.6638

This trail was originally mapped with GPS by several people including myself. The trail does NOT follow Goodwater Road or Lower Forge Road. This is deliberate - the trail designers and maintainers want to keep foot-traffic off the roads to avoid conflicts with motor vehicles and bicycles.

I should have added this link to one of several sources with the correct trail name: https://www.state.nj.us/dep/parksandforests/maps/trailguides/wharton_brochure_text.pdf

I use footway for single-use hiking trails that do not allow bicycles, but I'm not going to argue the point - not worth it.

But "Tom'S" pond is just wrong. USGS has nothing to do with this and they have obviously typoed the name. The trail belongs to the NJ State Park Service, managed by Wharton State Forest, and the official trail literature is clear that the name is "Tom's Pond Trail". Please change it back.

Hello, I agree with the name correction to US-9 within Galloway Township - South New York Road, changes to North New York Road at East Moss Mill Road. But I think you are wrong when it crosses from Galloway Township into Port Republic, at the Nacote Creek bridge. I believe at that municipal boundary the house numbers reset to single digits and the road becomes just New York Road, so the name was correct before your change. My evidence is US Postal Service address lookup and State of NJ parcel database.

Do you have specific evidence that this is North New York Road within the city of Port Republic's boundary?

Correction: damage repaired here was probably made in changeset/120214902 (same mapper).

Sorry. Based on History, I thought you created these airports, not just changed them, as they all show Version #1. Am I wrong? Were these already on the map in some other form?

way/1057183430
way/1057183598
way/1057188480

Hello, I noticed you added some airports around Southern New Jersey, USA. Do these actually exist today? I looked up 3 in GNIS and they say "Historical". In some cases your source is given as ourairports.com but I can't find them there or it says CLOSED, like this one. On aerial imagery it looks like there might have been an airstrip in these places in the past but no longer.