My comments regarding this removal: These underground floodwalls indeed do exist, as viewable under construction in Bing Aerial imagery especially near the Williamsburg Bridge and in Esri imagery near the new Corlears Hook Bridge. Although it may not be clearly noticeable when at the finished sections of the park today, there are indeed engineered flood barriers, bulkheads, and seepage barriers underground and designed into the landscape to make them appear as natural ridges. Refer to the final design plans that were closely followed in alignment with a dark dashed line shown on site maps as well as a cross section showing the underground floodwall in section on page 32: https://www.nyc.gov/assets/escr/downloads/pdf/DDC-f-ESCR-pres-rev-final-given-to-PDC-2020-01-30.pdf
An overall map showing underground flood protection is also shown on the main ESCR project page here: https://www.nyc.gov/site/escr/about/resiliency-and-flood-protection.page

This situation is the main reason I decided to map these features as they were beginning construction years ago, because they would likely be forgotten to be mapped after the project design pages disappear in the future and flood protection not visible to the naked eye is completed.
In terms of the relation I used to connect all of the ESCR Flood Protection elements at the time, I would argue that since this a single continuous project and piece of infrastructure with a proper name, numbered gates, and well documented design, that is should be considered a single relation that will prevent it from becoming broken apart, inaccurately added on to, or misunderstood in the future as mappers and users come across it (as what I see happened today). I am open to further discussion on this! Thanks

Also I will happily survey and verify all of the information when it is fully completed in the coming months!

These underground floodwalls indeed do exist, as viewable under construction in Bing Aerial imagery especially near the Williamsburg Bridge and in Esri imagery near the new Corlears Hook Bridge. Although it may not be clearly noticeable when at the finished sections of the park today, there are indeed engineered flood barriers, bulkheads, and seepage barriers underground and designed into the landscape to make them appear as natural ridges. Refer to the final design plans that were closely followed in alignment with a dark dashed line shown on site maps as well as a cross section showing the underground floodwall in section on page 32: https://www.nyc.gov/assets/escr/downloads/pdf/DDC-f-ESCR-pres-rev-final-given-to-PDC-2020-01-30.pdf
An overall map showing underground flood protection is also shown on the main ESCR project page here: https://www.nyc.gov/site/escr/about/resiliency-and-flood-protection.page

This situation is the main reason I decided to map these features as they were beginning construction years ago, because they would likely be forgotten to be mapped after the project design pages disappear in the future and flood protection not visible to the naked eye is completed.
In terms of the relation I used to connect all of the ESCR Flood Protection elements at the time, I would argue that since this a single continuous project and piece of infrastructure with a proper name, numbered gates, and well documented design, that is should be considered a single relation that will prevent it from becoming broken apart, inaccurately added on to, or misunderstood in the future as mappers and users come across it (as what I see happened today). I am open to further discussion on this! Thanks

Do you have any sources or reasoning as to why the deletion of this construction area was made?

That's correct, I had removed the bike lane tags for this section about a week ago becuase the bike lanes physically no longer exist, the striping was ground off the surface and there's signage in place telling bikes to detour to Thurman Ave. I placed the preliminary line for the separated cycle track with the tags: construction=cycleway
highway=construction
lcn=proposed

Hello, As of early June the bike lanes on Tower Grove from Vandeventer to Magnolia have been removed for the construction of the Tower Grove Connector cycle track. Please revert the changes you made in that section, thanks!

Hi, I apologize for those few errors, I updated the access tag on the taxi area and moved the fountain node to its real location so it is not located nearly on the roadway (that is why I had thought it had been removed during the area's reconstruction). As to why there was a lot of deletion involved in remapping the square, there were very few features that remained the same after the reconstruction and the area was many years out of date to begin with. The new layout is much simper and should now be more accurately mapped.

Thanks for letting me know, I just fixed these two specific issues and will make sure to use the more accurate tagging method in the future.

I changed them to covered=yes in an earlier edit but felt it was misleading since it's only partially covered and appears as a tunnel when rendered. I can change it back if a covered tag is valid here.

There was some sort of glitch between edits and it duplicated everything so I went back and deleted most of the doubles lol.
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Got it 👍 fixed!

I have correctly followed the documented process for proposed features (which there are over 100k instances of) outlined here: proposed=*

Here are the most recent documents from June showing the exact same plan that has been proposed for years:
https://www.nyc.gov/assets/escr/downloads/pdf/20230615_ESCR_BMCR_CB3PARKS.pdf
https://www.nyc.gov/assets/escr/downloads/pdf/2023_PA1Approach.pdf

If you really have a problem with a few clearly marked proposed ways, go ahead and delete them, but I am confident I mapped them accurately and with enough detail that little to no work will be required when construction is complete.

Correct, those portions of the flood protection system are in the not yet under construction northern portion of East River Park that will start early next year. This is the document that I used that shows all of the walls, levees, and gates: https://www.nyc.gov/assets/escr/downloads/pdf/DDC-f-ESCR-pres-rev-final-given-to-PDC-2020-01-30.pdf

I wanted to do all the tagging work up front now that the design is final so it doesn’t get forgotten. Now in a year or so myself or another mapper only has to delete the proposed/construction tag and it’s done.
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Hi,
To my knowledge almost all of this project is under construction and has been for at least a year, save for a short span near Con Ed. It is scheduled to be mostly complete by 2025. The upper part is already complete. Feel free to check on construction updates on the project website.

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Hinges and latches on a fence with a clearly defined walking route at the top of steps would indicate gates, no?
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Did not realize I removed cuisine types from Nathans, I was just correcting the non-standard tag error. In regard to Steeplechase Park I was giving the previously empty park region some structure using the white markings on the plaza which appear to indicate the most common walking routes to the various buildings, stairways, and gates in the park. I can remove a few of the more redundant ones.
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The Alliant Energy buildings in downtown Dubuque were demolished years ago, buildings on Jackson St inaccurate
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Hi, The houses near Roosevelt Middle School aren't all identical so they should either be mapped as reality or not at all. Thanks
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Yeah most recent imagery shows it was removed for utility work, and in the plans for the reconstruction of 2nd Ave and the bridges shows it will not be rebuilt. Might need a site check to know for sure though.

Ok, so are you suggesting it all gets removed? From my understanding different routers aren't capable of using pedestrian areas for routing and vice versa. I would argue that this "double-mapping" wasn't done for aesthetics but for better accommodating users of the map.
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