Changeset: 116204048
Adding details to Hudson Yards area
Closed by kguenther24
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created_by | iD 2.20.2 |
host | https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit |
imagery_used | Bing aerial imagery |
locale | en |
resolved:crossing_ways:highway-highway | 1 |
resolved:help_request:fixme_tag | 2 |
resolved:outdated_tags:noncanonical_brand | 1 |
Discussion
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Comment from MxxCon
Aren't you double-mapping that pedestrian plaza? You mapped it as both, pedestrian area and actual ways.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
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Comment from kguenther24
I was following suit of other high profile parks/plazas across the country (The Battery, National Mall, large sections of Chicago, etc.) In conversation with other mappers they agree that this is appropriate when both the exact shape of the plaza, as well as best routes (ways) through them, can be useful in higher profile areas.
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Comment from MxxCon
Those mappers are incorrect and what you are doing is tagging for renderer.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
Mapping so that it looks pretty on the renderered map rather than having semantically accurate tagging. -
Comment from kguenther24
Ok, so are you suggesting it all gets removed? From my understanding different routers aren't capable of using pedestrian areas for routing and vice versa. I would argue that this "double-mapping" wasn't done for aesthetics but for better accommodating users of the map.
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Comment from akadouri
This discussion bled into the OSMUS Slack.
https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C4DPLAN3U/p1642373310020500I'm inclined to say we keep these features and style of mapping due to the additional information each representation captures. In the case of ways for routing/accessibility and the areas for micromapping detail.
Ways (1-20 of 156)
- West 40th Street (5671654), v19
- West 36th Street (5672142), v16
- 11th Avenue (36801165), v27
- 11th Avenue (46139027), v19
- West 37th Street (46481738), v10
46481739, v10- West 38th Street (46481741), v9
- West Side Line (46481749), v15
265282521, v2- Hudson 36 (265282563), v4
265282572, v3- 265282573, v2
- 265282596, v2
265282609, v3265282614, v3265282618, v2- 265282626, v2
- 265282628, v2
265282633, v2265282645, v2
Relations (1-20 of 30)
- 1
- 2
- Amtrak Lake Shore Limited: Chicago => New York (1358974), v283
- West Side Line (1380684), v13
- 39th Street (3005488), v8
- Amtrak Adirondack: New York => Montréal (4073816), v187
- Amtrak Empire Service: New York => Albany (4234377), v113
- Amtrak Ethan Allen Express: New York => Rutland (4234911), v101
- Amtrak Ethan Allen Express: Rutland => New York (4445771), v67
- Amtrak Empire Service: Albany => New York (4452779), v77
- Amtrak Maple Leaf: New York => Niagara Falls (4467189), v102
- Amtrak Maple Leaf: Niagara Falls => New York (4467190), v96
- 11th Avenue (9128393), v14
- Amtrak Empire Service: Niagara Falls => New York (9155838), v42
- Amtrak Empire Service: New York => Niagara Falls (9155839), v42
- Amtrak Empire Service: New York => Albany (10322898), v21
- Amtrak Empire Service: New York => Albany (10322899), v23
- Amtrak Empire Service: New York => Niagara Falls (10322900), v38
- Amtrak Empire Service: Albany => New York (10322901), v20
- Amtrak Empire Service: Albany => New York (10322902), v21
- Amtrak Empire Service: Albany => New York (10322903), v21
- Amtrak Empire Service: Niagara Falls => New York (10322904), v38
Nodes (1-20 of 781)
- 42433644, v9
- 42447531, v22
- 42448996, v13
- 247084442, v60
- 247084443, v41
- 247085079, v59
- 247119341, v25
- 247119420, v60
- 427804105, v4
- 593915211, v4
- 593915213, v4
- 593915267, v5
- 2376384623, v3
2709493888, v22709493982, v2- 2709494109, v5
2709494277, v2- 2709494285, v2
2709494309, v2- 2709494334, v2
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