Hi,

I think you're right that this and the other path you mention are just sort of continuations of Lynghagi and Starhagi. I've reinstated the one-way tag in changeset/89030841.

It does feel fussy to tag them as one-way though — it's not something anyone's really going to pay attention to. But to try and stop anyone getting stuck I've added the bicycle=yes tag to nearby paths to make sure routers can get cyclists onto the cyclepath against the one-way flow.

M.

Hi kallik,

Could you provide a source for the name of this path? I can't find a reference to Karlsleið on Google, Reykjavíkurborg's website, or Borgarvefsjá.

Thanks,
Matt.

Hi Siriwekker,

I didn't get a response so I deleted the panels in changeset/82619812. But if you think I'm wrong — it happens more than I would like ;) — then please do add them back.

changeset/82619812

Hi Siriwekker,

Welcome to OpenStreetMap! I just wanted to check: are you certain there are solar panels at this location? It's unusual to see solar panels in Iceland because of the abundant geothermal power, and from the Bing satellite images it looks to me like wrapped hay bales in a farmyard.

Hi,

I think it would be better if you went through the proposal process before creating a new key. From osm.wiki/Proposal_process:

> Generally, new keys should always be discussed before being added to Map features

This new key is also very specific. From the same page, "we want to avoid an uncontrolled explosion of features and keys". Finally, the new key is spelled incorrectly (it should be icelandic_camping_card, not islandic_camping_card).

If you don't mind I'll revert this changeset. But feel free to propose the key on the talk-is mailing list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is.

Hi X99, thanks for taking an interest in Iceland on OSM! We don't really use the highway=motorway tag in Iceland, though, so I reverted this change in 74122432. You can read about how roads are mapped in different countries on OSM on the wiki (osm.wiki/Highway:International_equivalence) and if you'd like to discuss it, there's a mailing list for Iceland (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is).

Well spotted! As is common in football though, the name has changed again since that Já 360 photo was taken. I've added the new new name in changeset/74074829.

Source is https://www.dv.is/433/2018/11/29/fylkisvollur-faer-nytt-heiti-samningur-vid-wurth/.

Hi mappatman, do you know if these paths are closed permanently or temporarily?

Hi,

I was wondering, is this is a marked path or just a hike you took over open ground? I can't see anything on satellite images or ground-level photos.

In that case, great! Thanks for making the change.

Hi Gestur,

This change doesn't match up with any of the satellite imagery available on OpenStreetMap, not with the Já 360 photos from September 2017. Has this coastline changed since then?

Hi,

Thanks for the links. After reading them I think we can both be correct without contradicting one another. I think that, to many, Lagarfljót *is* a single entity — it is Lagarfljótsormurinn rather than Lagarormurinn, after all — and naming part it separately could be contentious. But also, in contexts where clarity is required, it might be necessary to separate it into a lake and a river, and name each separately. If you were to use OpenStreetMap data for a general purpose atlas, for example, you might want to label both the lake and river as Lagarfljót. On the other hand, a geological map might want to label to lake and river separately.

I can't think of a good way to handle this dual case on OpenStreetMap, though. I did think of adding loc_name=Lagarfljót to the lake, but I don't really think this tag is supported. In lieu of a more nuanced method of tagging, I'll leave the tags as they are.

Thanks for your reply,
Matt.

Hi,

I think this is a case where you might be technically correct but that doesn't reflect standard usage. I think most locals consider Lagarfljót as a (very big) river, not a river that flows into a lake named Lögurinn. The Icelandic Wikipedia page for Lagarfljót even includes a section on the name, saying that the name Lögurinn could well come from outsiders, not from people local to the river/lake.

https://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagarflj%C3%B3t#Lagarflj.C3.B3t_e.C3.B0a_L.C3.B6gurinn.3F

Landmælingar Íslands, as close as we can get to a definitive source, calls the river/lake Lagarfljót. I can't find a feature named Lögurinn in its public datasets.

In light of this, I'd like to rename the lake to Lagarfljót, but keep Lögurinn as an alt_name. Do you have any strong feelings on the issue?

Thanks,
Matt.

Hi,

Yes, access=customers sounds like a good idea to me.

Hi,

I think this is a private road. It's the entrance to a private company's industrial site, and you can see it's not really a road you would want to use:

https://ja.is/kort/?x=362118&y=405710&z=11&ja360=1&jh=75.8

So I reverted this in changeset/69228275.

changeset/69228275

Hi birdlawyer,

I added the duplicate tags back to the route=ferry sub-relation because I noticed it causes problems for routing engines (notably OSRM).

I know I shouldn't really add tags just to help third-party software, but it seems that because ferry route relations are uncommon (1 ,500 route=ferry relations to 20,000 route=ferry ways) they don't handle them well.

changeset/68797465
https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/issues/1405

I reverted your changes in changeset/68747501. The changes to the supermarkets look valid but the moved/deleted paths and street lamp nodes are invalid.

I don't have any experience with ferry routes via relations but if that would allow driving and walking routing to use different entrances/exits to the ferry, that would be really nice. As long as routing engines can still use the ferry route, I'm happy :)

You're right, sorry, I've changed the Dalvík–Hrísey ferry routes back. Now they both connect directly to the terminal again.

It was the ferry route that finishes in Seyðisfjörður that had the branch in the water (see https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=68566736), because there are two ferry terminal nodes there. I've left that so it only connects to one and there's no branch in the water.

Hi birdlawyer,

I reverted these changes in changeset/68566736, but only because you changed the Dalvík–Hræisey ferry route so it branches in the water. I think that this will cause trouble for routing engines.

From the OSM wiki: "The ferry route must not branch in the water, so it must always be drawn to the ferry dock. This is important for routing to work correctly".

But if you think I've made I've made a mistake in reverting this, please let me know!