Hi woodpeck, thank you for your note and advice in your comment above.

Firstly, I do have to confess to replying rather rashly, and perhaps flippantly to the @changeset discussion that you mention, by stating the use of OS Mastermap as a reference. I hold no facility to access this dataset, nor have I ever copy/pasted/transposed data from this repository. If there are similarities between the two services it is because this is the standard / level of detail I set myself when researching and updating the areas of the map. There is no like-for-like positional or database information between the two. All information that I use to inform any edits of the map come from my own interpretation of openly available sources such as planning information, aerial survey information and personal (re)collection surveys.

I must apologise to the user in question in this instance. However, I still maintain that from previous bad experiences of users on this platform that ‘community policing’ has varied results from my personal end user experience. Many comments come across as ill thought through at best, sometimes verging on harassment, especially when the same user continues across several changesets to voice the same opinion repeatedly. Personally I would rather that users contribute to the map, (like I have done for many years now) and if there are issues in there that they feel need fixing, that they get proactive and fix them. I absolutely get that users like myself need to be occasionally reminded what best-practices are, to uphold future edits. That is just my opinion.

Regardless of all that I must apologise to LordGarySugar, and I will reflect on your comments in my future work.

With kind regards,

Perhaps your time might be better served actively contributing to areas of the map that are not yet complete rather than taking it upon yourself to police and harass other contributors. I am now unsubscribing from this discussion. Please do not contact me again.

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Hi, thanks for your comment.
It’s a contentious subject I’m afraid, I follow the principle that the hierarchy of nomenclature starts with the land use type being farmed, whether that is arable or livestock based the predominant use of land in the UK is farmland. The crop or growth in that field has to come secondary to that first principle. A meadow can also mean so may various things which would be ambiguous to use it widely. In the case of sheep being visible then the crop is still grass, but the land use is farmland as it is primarily land that is farmed.

Hi there, the areas tagged to the east were labelled heath hence the changes , but have changed back to grassland now. Thanks,

Hi there. I wasn't aware of your page no I'm afraid. I'll take a look and bear in mind for future edits although I believe the hierarchy should still be landuse=farmland first (unless its commonland) then type (or variant)=meadow, meadow=pasture, crop=grass depending on whether its grazed pasture, hay, silage / haylage, set aside / SFI etc. Meadow has such a wide variety of interpretations, but will bear in mind for future edits. Many thanks,

You are both absolutely correct, can’t remember where the source was but Dunraven estate is south of near to Ogmore. I’ll delete this erroneous node. Thanks for flagging.

Sure, will do. Updated now.
Thanks,

Hi there,
Thanks for the note. I will bear in mind.
Regards,

Hi there, as already mentioned, and to answer your query, if there is already a name field given then that is left as is. The PROW designation webpage you referenced makes no indication of 'correct' or 'non-correct' combination of name field with a prow_ref tag. Thanks for sending though.

Hi there, In the absence of a formal name in this field I provide a duplicate of the prow naming as it provides a locating name when viewing in rendered mapping services which is very useful when describing where you are, and identifying it as a formal right or way as opposed to an un-adopted path. By all means feel free to amend to your wishes, but just be aware of the reasons behind the duplication. Thanks,

The relation had been removed by another user, it has now since been reinstated.

Perfect, thanks Andy!

Hi dudone, you appear to have deleted the relation for the Cotswold AONB boundary in this changeset (relation/166570, v832). Would you mind reinstating please? Many thanks.

Node reinstated in changeset changeset/126785119#map=15/51.1860/-0.3900 To note though the node and its info was not deleted, just upgraded to an area fill for the carpark area. It might be worth contacting wheelmap.org to see if they can't update their search to include areas, relations, ways aswell as nodes as currently there is duplication on the map for this parking instance.

Good point, I have removed / and labelled the holes as per their website.

No worries, there’s always a list of tasks to do!

It’s a work in progress in terms of adding to this map but the official route card on the Surrey Hills AONB site shows the full route using ‘connecting roadways’ up to Box Hill here: https://www.surreyhills.org/discover-route/leith-hill-greenway/

Hi, thanks for taking an interest in the subject matter. Personally, where the grass fields in question are unknown (without an in person survey) if they are in use as pasture/grazing, or as set-aside (out of date terminology I know), or as a rotation crop to boost nitrogen for the next crop in that field then I would say they would be best tagged with crop=grass (as that covers all bases) rather than pasture meaning grazing for cattle/sheep/horses etc. To your second point - I think the question over how the many iterations of map styles and renderers out in existence across the web using openstreetmap data interpolate this classification system is secondary to the classification system of tagged land and especially the hierarchy of that tagging. In this instance I am proposing that the landuse=farmland tag (and crop=grass where appropriate) has a higher priority of use over the more blanket / vanilla use of just the landuse=grass tag. Happy to discuss this further in / outside of specific changesets though since it's a bit of a big topic....

Firstly, my only interest is in creating a more accrate map that better reflects the actual usage of the places being mapped. I only map places that I have been to in person or know well. Farmland is both pastoral and arable and pertains to all the land operated by a farm. A meadow is a very specific type of grassland that is not regularly grazed by livestock. Since from aerial imagery you cannot tell the difference (generally) between a true meadow and grass farmland the likelihood is that it is farmland by default. 70% of the UK is farmland which is made up of both pastoral and arable. Non-grazed meadows form a very small proportion of this figure so the default position should be that they are tagged as farmland first. Please see the wiki note on farmland here landuse=farmland and the wiki note on meadows here landuse=meadow and the wikipedia description of a meadow here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadow