> But see https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2ung
I only remove the fixme when I once have been there or when once can see the bus shelter from the satellite image.

https://www.plovdiv.bg/item/transport/mass-public-transport/
is a mess. For example the name of station number 18 is different for bus line 1 than for line 7. As i wrote, nobody really cares about the station names. I changed now some according to https://www.plovdiv.bg/item/transport/mass-public-transport/
but cannot resolve the inconsistencies

I don't know if i can trust:
https://www.plovdiv.bg/item/transport/mass-public-transport/
because as I wrote, http://transport.plovdiv.bg/desktop/
is trustworthy as the bus routes are up to date and also include changes due to construction works. Since this is the official page linked at plovdiv.bg, why does it then not follow
https://www.plovdiv.bg/item/transport/mass-public-transport/
Public transport is just a mess and nobody gives a shit. It would be so easy to improve it, but I was already at the municipality - they don't care because their salary stays the same, if there are buses or not, if there are line numbers at the buses or not...

> Where did you obtain the information about the stops from?
The problem is:
* the stop names are not at the stations, so one cannot just read them
* the maps at the bus station shelters are outdated
* the bus drivers themselves don't know the names (and also don't acre about them)
* a professor from the university told me about that this website:
http://transport.plovdiv.bg/desktop/
was once created using EU funds. Now the municipality continues it alone (that is the reason they don't care about getting a https certificate).

I asked local friends and they also recommended me that website.
So I most used the station names from that website. the website is up to date because the changed bus routes doe to the construction of 6-ti sevtembri boulevard is in there.

However, the station names are inconsistent:
Some times "sever" is in parentheses, sometimes there is only a hyphen in frint of it. sometimers the adjacent sation has "jug", sometimes not, sometimes a station has the suffix "1", but there is no station "2" etc. Sometimes there are quotations, sometimes not. Sometimes the starting quotation mark is a „ sometimes it is a ". Sometimes instead of lower quotation marks there are just 2 comma: ,, (instead of „)
The problem is that nobody cares. In the buses there is no information about the following stations, not printed, not spoken - it is a shame for such a big city.
But OK, many buses have not even a line number. I was few days back in a bus that only had a paper shield with number "44" but in reality it was bus number 11. The driver told anther person that the electronic display would not work and they don't care about the number. As long as the municipality don't fine the transport companies to enforce the rules, nothing will ever change.

> it would be fine if you move the stops, marked with fixme= to the correct locations

But I did, all stops I verified were moved to the locations (often they were already at the correct location) and then I remove the FIXME.

Übrigens hat mir die ÖBB gesagt, dass sie die Infos für Scotty von der InfraGO per IRIS bekommt.

> Der Bahnhof Bad Schlema wird betrieben von: DB Regio-Netze / Erzgebirgsbahn (EGB)"

Interessant, das ist neu und hilfreich. Wie du siehst habe ich die erste Änderung schon vor eine Jahr vorgenommen. Damals hieß es, dass InfraGO direkt der Betreiber wäre und das weitere Umfirmierungen unter dem Dach der InfraGO zu erwarten sind.
Wir können es nun auf
"DB Regio-Netze / Erzgebirgsbahn (EGB)"
ändern oder lassen es bei InfraGO, damit man bei einer Umfirmierung nicht wieder alles ändern muss. Bitte entscheide du. Mir persönlich war es wichtig auf allen Bahnhöfen Echtzeit Fahrtinfos per OSM zu bekommen. Das gelingt per IBNR (dank Scotty) und zur Redundanz per bahnhof.de oder IRIS:
https://iris.noncd.db.de/wbt/js/index.html?bhf=DSUB

> einiger, aber nicht aller, Bahnhöfe
Gut möglich, dass ich Fehler gemacht habe. Wo habe ich das vergessen? Ansonsten: gibt es keinen Eintrag bei bahnhof.de habe ich den Operator so gelassen, wie er war.

Ich hatte dazu eine längere Diskussion mit DB InfraGO bezüglich der absurden Situation bei bahnhof.de der Bahnhöfe in und um Lichtenstein. (enttäuschend, da die sich wie ein Amt verhalten, denen die Fahrgäste ziemlch egal scheinen)
Als Ergebnis, sind alle Bahnhöfe, die bei bahnhof.de einen Eintrag haben Bahnhöfe unter der Regie von DB InfraGO und zwar direkt. bei den Gleisen dürfte das auch so sein, da kommt es drauf an, was bei der Bundesnetzagentur gemeldet sei. Also habe ich die Gleise nicht verändert, nur das bei dem ich mir sicher bin.

Please only map what you have inspected in reality! You added sidewalks despite there are often no sidewalks.

I don't know about the state of the abandoned railway. I just noticed that there is no relation yet for this former railway line, so I created on. I also connected it with Wikidata. Feel free to add or remove tags to the relation. I did not change things for the tracks.
I don't know why the layer went wrong. I removed it now.

Yes, I meant uic_ref. Thanks for your fix.

> it can hide the StreetComplete address quest for the building

I am an "excessive" StreetComplete user (was once even #1 user in Albania :-) ) and don't see this. However, SC is just one app, there are many more. I also reported already several bugs to SC to help improving it.

You have not replied to my main point: I map to:
* benefit personally to later find addresses, routes and info (I now live here)
* to help the shop owners

For both it is important that the info is available and there is no reason why the house a shop is in should be used to provide info. This info: house address is also shop address might be true for Sofia, or maybe not or maybe not for all Bulgarian municipalities and what about in general? No app in the world can find out that local rules might apply (house numbers, PO-box numbers). Therefore mappers should be encouraged to collect as much info as possible.

And again, if a shop closes, the node can simply be removed or changed to the successor. If a shop moves, of course a node must then be updated - updated location is logically also an updated address.

> Once address data is duplicated, future mappers need to keep it consistent - and in practice, this often doesn’t happen. For example, if a notary moves to another location, the node might be moved, but in many cases the address tags remain unchanged,

This cannot be an excuse not to add addresses. It is simple wrongdoing to move a node and not updating it. This contradicts the idea of OSM in my opinion.

> An address is a property of the building (or more correctly for Bulgaria

But some of my business partners use post boxes, thus the official address (the one in the trade register) is on that post box, thus independent of e.g. the main office's location.

However, the main issue remains - independent of a city an its particular cadastre rules, web crawlers should get info about shops. The shop owners want to get found and the apps want to provide users e.g. how to route to a location. It is impossible for a crawler to know in advance that Sofia has the rule that if a node is inside an OSM area having a house number, the shop always has the same number, while in Shumen it might not be the case. Or take Berlin where on some areas shops with entrance at the backside of the house gets the suffix "b" while shops with entrances to the main street get "a". Or in Tirana (I lived there) the official address is the number of the entrance of a building. So the house has e.g. number "53" but the official address of my company there is "53/1" (and as funny as it is, there is no "53/2" only a 52/3.

Should apps like OSMAnd~ learn all cadastre rules of all countries? (and in e.g. Germany even every municipality has its own numbering rules)

To osm.wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element:
there is nothing written that one should not also add the address to shop nodes.

By the way, I only add the address if I know it for sure. I most cases I take the one given at the website of a shop because (in others I take the one from business cards I got) this is the only way to get it right.

Many thanks for your replies.
Regarding the reply from @Fraxi: this is no argument not to add for all shop nodes the address. Sure, if there is e..g an office building where you have 10 different offices, 2 per floor, the building is cluttered with nodes and visually only few will be displayed. However, important is that the data is there, that Apps and data crawlers can get the info about that there is the particular shop.

My practical experience is that it is often impossible to divide a building into shapes to match house numbers. For example a shopping mall can house dozens of shops and for example in Germany these shops will have different house numbers, depending what street is the nearest to their location in the building. So the mall building can have a different street address than the shops inside. Then some areas have strange numbering history, like some cities use e.g. 7, 7A, 7B, while other use 7, 7B (so there is no 7A), some use 7A, 7B (there is no plain 7), some use "7" for the main building, but the shops inside all have numbers like "7/1" etc. There are so many different possibilities to number a shop. Some shops use for example post boxes, thus have a completely different address than their location would imply. So the most save and clear is to add the house number and also street to the shop. It does not harm but assures the data are available. I mean, no mapper is forced to add the address, but it makes sense to do so and instead of informing mappers about possible doubling of data, one should inform mappers that having the address for the shop is an advantage.

Can you please point me to the page where the Bulgarian community came to the consensus?

I think we have a misunderstanding: I don't change adresses of houses, only add shops and state it the shop nodes the complete address. This does not harm, but has the advantage that any web-crawler get the full info for a shop - and this is what not only shop owners but also users like me need. For example in OSMAnd~ I tap on a shop node and get all info. And there are many apps around offering info from OSM. If the shop later closes, the node can be deleted and that's it.

I got this already as on almost every change I got this info. But it is not wrong to add the address explicitly. I am not stubborn, have my reasons to use the address. As a former business owner I know well how search engines work - they evaluate the node and it helps a lot if the node of the shop has the address.

I don't get why nobody takes my argument. So here again:
* what is wrong to add an address to a shop node?
* how is it assured that AI crawlers get the address when they found the node of a shop?

Many thanks! The other change is correct, because you labeled it as a halt, therefore it belongs to the category "railway stop" and this is what the other person did.
By the way, I just found out that there is a second railway halt in Rome with the same name:
node/1313285443