I am presently redoing the houses and addresses in my small home town and I am lucky to say that I have it very, very easy compared with you lot.

The NRW-Landesvemessungamt (Germany, North-Rhein-Palitnate Surveying Bureau) have released the vector data and address data to OSM so it easy to check and modify the OSM data accordingly. It is however not always up to date so its usage should be self restricted to those with some local knowledge.

On the other hand I sometimes wonder if it is worth all the effort to enter address data when any cheap navigation device (like my Tom-Tom) takes you point-to-point anyway. Do we really think that the OSM routing data will be any better than that that is now readily available. It happens all the time: Newbies (who we want) come in and change the data and cannot initially see the complex relation data already in the data base. This happens because we cherish the newbies more than we cherish the stored data. i.e. Newbies have priority.

In my humble opinion we should collect data which is useful and not readily available. By this I mean POIs (all of them) with their attributes. Rambling (walking) routes should be another priority, even higher than other routes. This is especially true of holiday destinations.

Of course some of you will disagree. That is fine: Don’t worry, just carry on and do it your way and enjoy yourself while doing it.

Ich danke auch die Landesvemessungamt für diese Daten. Ich vertrete auch die Meinung von flohoff: Wir in NRW haben diesen Daten auch bezahlt. Also ist eine kostenlose Nützung eigentlich angebracht aber nicht eine selbsverständlichkeit. Ob die anderen Bundesländer folgen werden können wir nur hofen.

Change the photo and user name and it would be a description of me except I have been retired for 20 years.

I like it and will definitely use it. In fact I already done. Deleted one confestionary and added a Pizza shop (have to gather the attribute details though). Well done.

I like it. Well done. Could you give me the coordinates!

To RobJN. Thank you. I was missing something! It worked very well.

Thanks for the info. However, I could not zoom in enough to add minute details such as paths, doorways, house numbers, post boxes, etc.

Is this a built in limitataion or am I missing something?

@maxerickson I don’t know how you did it but well done: I don’t use twitter.

@FraMauro. As maxerickson insinuates the error was readily recognisable in OSMI as shown in this example. It is always advisable to check your work using the OSMI and Keepright.

After all we all make mistakes

@ رامز Can I assume that Schäuble Michele will take over this task. He seems to have more knowledge than I do.

This border was last edited by RedFox (Language French).

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/RedFox on the 27.Dec.2013.

It was initially entered by Schäuble Michele

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Sch%C3%A4uble%20Michele on the 28.Jan.2008

It would be advisable to contact them first.

If you have no success I’ll do it.

@aseerel4c26

Although they are not “false positives” they are still errors and have to be corrected so we do agree!

Very philosophical. Well done!

@aseerel4c26

IMHO kann es keine “false positives” bei “beinahe Verbindungen” geben. “Highways” sollten mit noexit=yes getagt werden wenn sie nicht mit einer anderen highway verbunden sind!

It is also clearly visible here:

http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/de/?zoom=8&lat=46.81671&lon=19.50635&hill=0#

Yes, I do think that we should raise the bar on newbies’ contributions.

Yes, we all make mistakes and most of the newbies learn through their own. We don’t want to hinder them in their initial endeavours, or do we?

I have had most of my work changed/improved, most of it good but sometimes not so good. It is usually newbies making erroneous edits because they cannot always see the geometry behind the geographical data.

Relations/Multipolygons/turning instructions, etc. are usually not easily understood by newbies but they can change/mutilate them at will.

When it happens I contact the newbie and it about 50% of the cases I received a positive response, the other 50% just don’t answer; reason unknown but I can guess why!

As OSM progresses it is even going to get more cluttered/complicated so IMHO I would expect the OSMF to rethink their present open ended philosophy. I have my ideas but I consider the OSMF to be more competent to debate this issue. Surely that is part of their mandate anyway!

I agree with your sentiments that the list should be maintained. I have completed D-53359 Rheinbach and it is now 100% correct (I hope). I am not prepared to go to other PLZs and do their work, so the list is no longer of any importance to me and as it is not be maintained I won’t look at it again. I think other contributors would agree with my conclusion.

But, as I said, I do agree with your sentiment and pity that it not being maintained.

D-53359 Rheinbach, Stettinerstraße ist geändert worden: Ich war heute vor Ort. Es ist jetzt die Franz-Wendler-Staße und ist seit 7.Aug.2012 in OSM erfasst. Auch die Stadt-Karten für Touristen sind geändert worden.

Die Franz-Wendler-Straße ist mit old_name=Stettinerstraße seit 10.Aug.2013 getagt.

D-53359 Rheinbach, Stettinerstraße geändert worden (Ich glaube): Ich werde es vor Ort prüfen.

In D-53359 Rheinbach habe ich Freisleben-Straße in Freislebenstraße geändert.

In D-53359 Rheinbach-und Nebenorten gibt es keine Straße “Parkplatz Freizeitzentrum” , auch nicht in Google.