Hi Shek

not sure why this way inmidst of fields became a residential road. This is not residential area, but rice fields, the road is used mostly for land access. Hope you dont mind if I changed it back. Thx

Hi Aliffia - this must be a misunderstanding. Tracks can be used by motorcycles and cars, their prominent use is by farmers. I went through this area three days ago and most ricefields became building plots, therefore your previous tag "residential road" is justified. But not "living street". "Living street" is a concept used in Indonesia for "gang", but this is debatable. Hope you are okay if I changed to "residential"

Consider changing highway=residential to highway=track. The residential tag is used on roads that primarily provide access to, or within, RESIDENTIAL AREAS. However, this is a rural area giving primarily access to fields and plantations. The few houses along the road does not make this area a "residential area". The land use is agricultural and tree plantations.

Let me know whether you want to discuss further. Thanks for contributing to OSM!
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Consider changing highway=residential to highway=track. The residential tag is used on roads that primarily provide access to, or within, RESIDENTIAL AREAS. However, this is a rural area giving primarily access to fields and plantations. The few houses along the road does not make this area a "residential area". The land use is agricultural and tree plantations.

Let me know whether you want to discuss further. Thanks for contributing to OSM!
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Consider changing highway=residential to highway=track. The residential tag is used on roads that provide access to, or within, residential areas. However, this is a rural area (consider land use) giving access to fields and plantations primarily. The few houses along the road does not make this area a "residential area". It is farm land primarily.
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This is a rural road part of the public network, giving access to fields and forests. Therefore highway=service should not be used.
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Hi - are you sure there is a railway there? I know the area and this might a mistake which I just reverted to its original classification. Let me know whether you have some questions about it. Thx
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Hi - are you sure there is a railway there? I know the area and this might a mistake which I just reverted to its original classification. Let me know whether you have some questions about it. Thx
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Hi Kike. Thanks for your contribution. Looking at this road, it appears to be a rural road used primarily for giving access to fields, and not so much for residential use. Consider re-tagging it to highway=track
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Hi Frederic - are you sure this highway is wide enough for cars to pass? Otherwise just call it a path. And it should be connected to some other ways. Thanks for your contribution!
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Hi Arnaud, my neighbour, I suppose! Surprise surprise. Regarding this changeset, instead of footpath, I would call it a path, because most likely, the farmers go there by motorbike. And the path is disconnected, can you not connect it to another way? Let me know if you have more questions.
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If someone used the tag "path" based on a survey, you should not retag it as "track", without consulting that person. Thanks for your understanding.

I wonder why you changed from path to track. This is less than 2m wide, impossible for a car to pass. I change back to path. I went there today on my bike.

I wonder why you changed from path to track. This is less than 2m wide, impossible for a car to pass. I change back to path. I went there today on my bike.

Hi Fitrah

I wonder why you changed from path to track. This is less than 2m wide, impossible for a car to pass. I change back to path. I went there today on my bike.

Thanks for your input. I initiated a discussion regarding "living street", please look at osm.wiki/Talk:Indonesian_Tagging_Guidelines. As per Wiki, "A general feature of this a "living street" is, that the legislation either grants pedestrians the right of way over or at equal rights to other road users". This is not the case in Indonesia. Have a look at the sample pictures for living street, they are very different from the "gang" here in Indonesia. "Living streets" have nothing to do with width, but legislation. But look at the sample pictures of an alley, that fits the "gang" so much better. An alley is more defined by width, just like an Indonesian "gang". What do you think? Why don't you join the discussion on osm.wiki/Talk:Indonesian_Tagging_Guidelines?

Thanks for contributing to OSM. The concept of "Living Street" does not exist in Indonesia, where pedestrians have priority to cars. If it is too narrow for cars to pass ("gang" in Indonesia), consider using highway=path, or wide enough for a car, highway=service=alley. Look at the examples here service=alley

Danke Dir für den Hinweis auf das Forum. Sehr interessant die verschiedenen Sichtweisen, und ich traf "alte Bekannte" wie extremcarver wieder. Es gibt wohl keine eindeutige Entscheidung, was die mtb scale auf verbotenen Wegen angeht. Also ich kennzeichne Wege nur dann als verboten, wenn ein eindeutiges Fahrradsverbotsschild zu sehen ist - also nicht bei einem allgemeinen Verbot. Und dann hat die mtb-scale nichts zu suchen, denn mal Hand aufs Herz, sie ist für MTBer gedacht, die das Gebot umgehen, auch wenn es Stimmen im Chat gibt, die das Gegenteil behaupten. In der Zukunft werde ich allerdings davon absehen, und es der local community überlassen. Eine andere Frage: welches Tool benutzt Du, um auf Kartenveränderungen in Deinem Gebiet aufmerksam zu werden? Ich "betreue" sozusagen meinen Hinterhof in Bali und entdecke oft falsche Inputs Monate zu spät. Übrigens wirst Du Dich mit meinem Input in Österreich nicht mehr herumplagen müssen - bin wieder weg!

Jetzt verstehe ich Dein Anliegen. Eine Forststrasse, wo ausdrücklich Fahrräder nicht erlaubt sind, sollte bei Access nur den "tag" bicycle:no anzeigen, für motorisierte Fahrzeuge reicht der "default". Mein tag "designated" war nicht richtig. Zitat Wiki: "highway=track does not imply any particular access=* value. Default access restrictions are country specific and depend on ownership, land use and other factors. If you have local knowledge or can do a survey to obtain ground truth, adding explicit access tags is recommended." Ich werde das in dem Changeset korrigieren. Danke für Deinen Input. Übrigens, es wäre schön und hilfreich, wenn Du unter Deinem "user account" ein wenig über Deine Interesse mit OSM erzählst ("About me").

Gut, designated oder "no" (nicht yes) ist nicht so entscheidend. Ich würde nur Wege als "no bikes" kennzeichnen, wenn das ausdrücklich so ausgeschildert ist. Apps wie z.B. Komoot schliessen sie dann aus bei Auto-Routing. Wenn Du das nicht machst, kann es sein, dass Komoot Dir diese Wege als Option anbieten.