Hi Melo_1,

I noticed you created some unnecessary highway links near the dual carriageway junction at way/1417045597 (way/1417045597), which is similar to the previous issue I reached out about in your changeset here: changeset/166388825

With satellite imagery and Mapillary (https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=523513060830713) showing no physically separated turn lanes here, the OSM Wiki recommends mapping the junction as a more simplified squared connection, like it was previously mapped. Here are some relevant OSM Wiki pages that may be helpful to reference:
*osm.wiki/Junctions
* This also contains a link to Mapbox’s recommendations: https://web.archive.org/web/20230602212339/https://labs.mapbox.com/mapping/mapping-for-navigation/modeling-intersections-for-map-navigation/
*osm.wiki/Dual_carriageway#How_to_map
*osm.wiki/Highway_link#Internal_turning_lanes

With these recommendations in mind, could you please consider mapping dual carriageway junctions similar to these examples in the future?

Thank you and please feel free to reach out if you have any questions!

TrailJunkie

Salut Melo_1,

Am observat că ai creat niște legături autostradale inutile lângă intersecția cu autostrada dublă de la punctul 1417045597 (way/141704559), ceea ce este similar cu problema anterioară despre care am contactat în setul tău de modificări aici: changeset/16638882

Având în vedere că imaginile din satelit și Mapillary (https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=523513060830713) nu arată benzi de viraj separate fizic aici, Wiki OSM recomandă maparea intersecției ca o conexiune pătrată mai simplificată, așa cum a fost mapată anterior. Iată câteva pagini Wiki OSM relevante care ar putea fi utile pentru referință:
*osm.wiki/Junctions
* Aceasta conține și un link către recomandările Mapbox: https://web.archive.org/web/20230602212339/https://labs.mapbox.com/mapping/mapping-for-navigation/modeling-intersections-for-map-navigation/

*osm.wiki/Dual_carriageway#How_to_map
*osm.wiki/Highway_link#Internal_turning_lanes

Având în vedere aceste recomandări, ați putea lua în considerare cartografierea intersecțiilor cu autostrăzi duble similare cu aceste exemple în viitor?

Vă mulțumesc și nu ezitați să ne contactați dacă aveți întrebări!

TrailJunkie

Hi melo_1,

Thank you for your mapping efforts in Romania! I noticed some dual carriageways were remodeled in a way that is inconsistent with standard cartographic practices in OSM (way/1385626597). The OSM wiki suggests that these dual carriageway intersections should be squared, not rounded (osm.wiki/Dual_carriageway). What do you think about updating the modeling of this intersection to something more simplified and squared?

Additionally, I also noticed internal turning links were added where there doesn't appear to be a physically separated turning lane (way/1387492522). Modeling internal links is typically reserved for cases with clear physical separation (osm.wiki/Highway_link). If you do want to map turn lanes like these, I’d suggest referencing the OSM Wiki’s Lanes page (osm.wiki/Lanes), which provides guidance on how to map these by using lane tagging.

I look forward to hearing from you and hope you have a nice day!

TrailJunkie

Salut melo_1,

Îți mulțumesc pentru eforturile tale de cartografiere în România! Am observat că unele drumuri cu sens dublu au fost remodelate într-un mod care este incompatibil cu practicile cartografice standard din OSM (way/1385626597). Wiki-ul OSM sugerează că aceste intersecții cu drumuri cu sens dublu ar trebui să fie pătrate, nu rotunjite (osm.wiki/Dual_carriageway). Ce părere ai despre actualizarea modelării acestei intersecții la ceva mai simplificat și pătrat?

În plus, am observat că au fost adăugate legături interne de viraj acolo unde nu pare să existe o bandă de viraj separată fizic (way/1387492522). Modelarea legăturilor interne este de obicei rezervată cazurilor cu separare fizică clară (osm.wiki/Highway_link). Dacă doriți să cartografiați benzi de viraj de acest gen, vă sugerez să consultați pagina Benzi de pe OSM Wiki (osm.wiki/Lanes), care oferă îndrumări despre cum să le cartografiați folosind etichetarea benzilor.

Aștept cu nerăbdare să vă aud și vă doresc o zi bună!

TrailJunkie

Correction: Source used was Esri World Imagery and Bing Streetside

Correction: Source used was Esri World Imagery and Mapillary

Correction: Source used was Maxar SecureWatch Imagery 2024-10-04.

Correction: Comment is "updated residential road along Strada Libertății".

Thank you for the insight and further explanation of this area, I will defer to your knowledge here.

Happy Mapping!

Hi Dimitar,

Thank you for letting me know. I do see the barriers in Esri World Imagery but based on the current data showing (way/157756010) as being under construction the oneway would not allow for traffic to enter the sports complex at (node/6362134040). Is it possible the road is temporarily bidirectional to allow access to the sports complex until construction is completed? Let me know what you think!

Correction: Source used was Maxar SecureWatch Imagery 2024-05-16

Correction: Source used was Esri World Imagery

Hi rarad74,

I originally thought highway=residential would be most appropriate here because this road is accessing more than one residential building, but I now see that the OSM Wiki’s pipestems section on the service=driveway page (service=driveway#Pipestems) does fit this location well and I agree with using service for these scenarios. Thank you for reaching out!

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Bună rarad74,

Inițial am crezut că highway=residential ar fi cea mai potrivită aici, deoarece acest drum accesează mai mult de o clădire rezidențială, dar acum văd că secțiunea pipestems a OSM Wiki pe pagina service=driveway (osm.wiki/wiki /Tag:service%3Ddriveway#Pipestems) se potrivește bine acestei locații și sunt de acord cu utilizarea serviciului pentru aceste scenarii. Vă mulțumim că ne-ați contactat!

Correction:
Comment is “Updated roads near Strada Banat #adt”
Source used was Esri World Imagery; Bing Streetside

Correction: Source used was Esri World Imagery

Correction: Source used was Esri World Imagery

Hi Dimitar, Thank you for reaching out. While working in the area I noticed that way/1028909361 and way/1028658686 both have the tag “motor_vehicle=destination” that was added by @Nadejda%20Nenkova. Since these tags are present at the entrance of of this residential neighborhood, I applied “motor_vehicle=destination” to all the roads behind it for consistency, as the area seems like it’s for “local traffic only” (access=destination). Happy Mapping!

Correction: Source used was Esri World Imagery.

Correction: Source used was ESRI World Imagery; Kartaview

Correction: Source used was Esri World Imagery

Correction: Source used was Mapillary.