I appreciate you contacting me. I also appreciate the difficulty in identifying the road name accurately.

To the best of my knowledge, the NSW Address Location Service is the most accurate source as it evolved from confusion over street names and the inability of emergency vehicles to locate some addresses in emergencies. The NSW Govt established this service to ensure all emergency responses had accurate addresses. I recall checking this some time ago and could find only one property using this road as an address and it still showed as valid this morning when I checked using the URL : 
https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/services/public/Address_Location?houseNumber=2031&roadName=Burke  Wills&roadType=Road&suburb=Balranald&postCode=2715&projection=EPSG%3A4326

The address service gives no confirmation for a property on "Burke and WIlls Road", "Burke & Wills Road" or "Tin Tin Bidura Road".  It is unusual for road names to include "and" or "&" ( I can't think of any other one at the moment)  and perhaps the NSW Address Location Service database cannot cope with "and" or "&" in road names. 

Local governments are the authorities in regard to road names in NSW. In this case, Balranald Shire Council still identifies this road as Tin Tin Bidura Road (I checked the Council's Register of Roads on its website this morning)

It might be best for OSM to show all three names, one as primary name and other two as alternatives so that a search for any of the three names will take a person to this road. I'm not sure how to show two alternate addresses in OSM
perhaps 
name=Burke & Wills Road
source:name=signposts at each end of road
alt_name=Tin Tin Bidura Road
source:alt_name=Balranald Shire Council
old_name=Burke Wills Road
source:old_name=NSW Address Location Service

I was pondering sending an email to Balranald Shire Council but, based on past experience, I expect they will respond with the official name that is in their Register of Roads i.e. Tin Tin Bidura Road so it would not clarify the issue for us. (Bidura is a property near the northern end or the road while Tin Tin is a property in the vicinity of Pitarpunga Lake)

My preference is to include all three names in some way but I am happy for you to make whatever changes you think appropriate.  I have seen some of your work in OSM and I know you are a conscientious mapper and I trust your judgement. You do what you think is correct.

I've completed those edits. Hopefully OSM Inspector will no longer show errors. Interestingly, JOSM had not identified the errors and the area was rendering correctly - but better to get it right. Thanks for contacting me.

Thanks for the feedback about the relation not closed. The DCS Base Map is reasonable but not perfect. I think I can do better using satellite imagery - especially as we have access to a number of imagery sources. I have visited a small part of Yanga National Park but the wettest parts are not accessible so my "on the ground" verification is based on limited experience. I think OSM can do better than the DCS Base Map but please correct me if you see errors. Thanks again.

Hello again Warin61
Thanks for your thoughts. Since I have considered wetlands as being usually intermittent, I have not considered it necessary to add an intermittent tag. The intermittent nature of many wetland areas is probably the reason why the intermittent tag does not render on the map when used for wetland.
As I said previously, I gave a lot of thought to mapping Coolyamba Creek and concluded that the areas along the waterway were most accurately mapped as wetland but I would not object if you think I have erred and you wish to change the way I have mapped the area.
Regards
TobyOrr

I think we have different understandings for the use of the tag "wetland". It is my understanding that wetland does not need always to be wet - especially in the Australian content. Gwyder wetlands and Macquarie Marshes are both intermittent in nature, as are many other wetland areas.

I found two OSM definitions for wetland:
1. "A natural area subject to inundation or with waterlogged ground, further specified with wetland=*" source: natural=*

2. "A wetland is a land area that is saturated with water, either permanently or seasonally." source: natural=wetland

Referring to the first definition, an area subject to inundation will be wet when inundated but will not always be wet. The extent and duration of inundation and subsequent period of damp or bogginess varies depending on many factors.

And the second definition also makes it clear that the saturation with water does not need to be permanent.

I believe that most wetland in Australia is intermittently wet rather than always so.

It seems to me that wetlands are less frequently covered with water than rivers and lakes and, depending on the interval between rainfall/inundation events, wetlands, rivers and lakes may all become dry for a period.

Having posted the above, I realise that Coolyamba Creek is not actually a distributary of the Lachlan and carries just a limited volume of water from its own limited catchment area. Therefore its omission from the abovementioned publication is because it does not flow from the Lachlan. But this also probably explains why it has so little water compared with other nearby waterways.

Hello Warin61

I agree that the DCS NSW Base Map shows this area as water but that map is not always correct and, as I recall reading in a recent post on talk-au, we don't want OSM to be just a copy of the Base Map. When I looked at satellite imagery from various sources I could see little water. I agree that there is sometimes water there but it seems to me that surface water is so infrequent in this stream (unlike other streams in the vicinity) that natural=wetland better describes the actual situation.

I have been researching water in the Lachlan and Murrumbidgee areaa as a personal interest. One significant document published a couple of decades ago, "A history of the ecology and flows of the lower Lachlan River and its distributaries" from https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324559709 (author was Patrick Donald Driver of NSW Department of Planning, Industry and Environment, dated January 1999) does not even mention Coolyamba Creek. This creek does not carry the more significant water that appears in nearby waterways such as Merrowie and Merrimajeel Creeks. I have visited the area and travelled on Alma Road and Cobb Highway but I have no recollection of anything significant at Coolyamba Creek.

As I said above, I do not see the DCS Base Map as always accurate. Natural=wetland was my best judgement for the area along Coolyamba Creek. I'm doing my best but you are possibly more experienced and better informed than me. If you think it best to re-map these areas as intermittent water, then please do so.

Thanks for contacting me.

Bob, I've made changes. I will look again later in case I've missed anything but you should feel free to make any further edits you think necessary. I was not sure about the old bridge - perhaps we need to wait and see if it is dismantled or retained as an historic feature. Thanks again.

Bob, I'll look at it in shortly. Thanks for contacting me. I'll let you know when I've done it.

Thanks for your feedback on this and several other items.

I have just become aware that, for quite a few months, my email account has been sending emails from OpenStreetMap directly to spam because of a large number of dubious ladies seeking my friendship via the OpenStreetMap message system.

I want to reassure you and the other people who messaged me or left changeset comments that I was not deliberately ignoring messages - I was just unaware that they were being trashed as spam. I have now changed account settings regarding mail from OpenStreeMap.

Thanks for your feedback.

I have just become aware that, for quite a few months, my email account has been sending emails from OpenStreetMap directly to spam because of a large number of dubious ladies seeking my friendship via the OpenStreetMap message system.

I want to reassure you and the other people who messaged me or left changeset comments that I was not deliberately ignoring messages - I was just unaware that they were being trashed as spam. I have now changed account settings regarding mail from OpenStreeMap.

Thanks for your feedback.

I have just become aware that, for quite a few months, my email account has been sending emails from OpenStreetMap directly to spam because of a large number of dubious ladies seeking my friendship via the OpenStreetMap message system.

I want to reassure you and the other people who messaged me or left changeset comments that I was not deliberately ignoring messages - I was just unaware that they were being trashed as spam. I have now changed account settings regarding mail from OpenStreeMap.

Thanks for your feedback.

I have just become aware that, for quite a few months, my email account has been sending emails from OpenStreetMap directly to spam because of a large number of dubious ladies seeking my friendship via the OpenStreetMap message system.

I want to reassure you and others who messaged me or left changeset comments that I was not deliberately ignoring messages - I was just unaware that they were being trashed as spam. I have now changed account settings regarding mail from OpenStreeMap.

Fred, I do not appreciate you changing my edits without consultation. You have changed "type=boundary + boundary=natural" into "type=multipolygon" on many of my contributions. As far as I know, If both are correct. My preference is obviously not yours. I have found that "boundary=natural" permits easier editing in some circumstances where multiple multipolygons are involved. I have checked OpenStreetMap wiki. While "boundary=natural" is not common, it is not incorrect. Taginfo reports it is the 17th most common usage for "type=boundary". I appreciate that you may have a different style preference to my usage but you are not entitled to try to bully others to adopt your preference. Please stop doing this. And please don't write that my tags are "bad". If I make errors, I appreciate someone correcting them or informing me so that I can correct them. Please do not change correct tags to suit your personal preferences.

Also I do not understand that the imagery you say you used could have informed these edits.

As far as I am aware, there are passenger rail services between Junee and Griffith NSW but this changeset has changed stations to disused and/or stations to "yards" (good only) and removed public transport tags. Coolamon is the station to which I have looked most closely but I think other stations on this line, including Leeton, are also affected. Could you please verify the source for your edits in this changeset and/or remedy errors.

Alan, Thanks for your message. I have visited the area by car but mostly could observe only from public roads and did not have access to private property. Thus my mapping mostly relied on the satellite imagery available at the time. Waterways, lakes and reservoirs in Australia can be variable in regard to water levels but I have added "intermittent" tags only where I have observed, either in person or in satellite imagery, a lack of water. Obviously there was water in those reservoirs when I mapped them. But I always regard mapping as a process of improvements and, if the reservoirs now are dry, then I agree it is appropriate to add intermittent tags. I have recently come to appreciate that it, where something is edited after original mapping, then it is useful to add a tag identifying the source for the additional tags, For example:
intermittent=yes
source:intermittent=Bing imagery February 2021

This can be important lest someone else revisit the area next year, see the reservoirs full, and think the "intermittent" tags are an error.

Please feel free to improve any of my mapping efforts where you are able to do so. So please go ahead and add "intermittent" tags where you think appropriate and I think it would also be helpful if you were also to "source:intermittent" tags.

Thanks again for contacting me and for any improvements you are able to make to my own mapping efforts.

Regards

Toby

I think it is now fixed. Thanks for advice.

Nevw,
Thanks for your assistance.

now fixed. Thanks.

Hopefully corrected now. Thanks for assistance.