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171346332 4 months ago

Није тип! Званично име је Kalinka lux, извор АПР.
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156194151 over 1 year ago

As i understand you, You are classifying an existing tunnel (fake) as something that is not worthy of beeing shown on the map. Even though it maybe not passable or maybe it is passable, which would need to be determinated. You can still let it be present with access=no, and when someone shows up with the evidence of going through it, then that person could change it to access=yes. Or if this is not acceptable, then mark it as railway=abandoned. But it is Unacceptible for an existing structure to not be present on the map! Because now i only see the Negation of an existing structure (because it is removed). These excedes some ethical principles which i do not want to be part of. (The 'G' was only source that could be found, (Even though i admit that really it is my fault, not deffining it as access=no, or railway=abandoned, to not misleed someone through unintentionaly. For that i appologise!)

P.S. May somebody from Valjevo, who sees this comment, go and explore Tunel Brđani, and determinate if you can go through it or not.
-At this moment i am not able to visit the location and document.

156194151 over 1 year ago

The path is not fake, it is a real existing tunnel called tunel ,,Brđani" under Brđani hill, (Brđani means 'Hill' in english) and was part of first 5km (built in 1914) narrow gauge 760mm railway towards Loznica, that was stoped beacause of WW1 and WW2 respectively. The project was canceled and a standard gauge 1435mm construction commenced in 1998 southward, from this point. (Because, until the late 60s, Vladike Nikolaja south carrigeway used to be the a narrowgauge railway from Belgrade, terminating at Valjevo old railway station, (at Vladike Nikolaja 7)).
Now for the facts:
Not fictional mapping. (For the standard gauge i used Geosrbija katastar, that has it parcelised and you can see the trace of 1435mm railway & here you have deatailed katastral numbers (https://otvorenavlada.rs/uredba-pruga-valjevo-loznica037-lat-doc/), (now i know there was a hacking problem and since then, the Geosrbija platform & Katastar are unavailable outside Serbia).

Note: It is not as precize, because the plan documentation, is still not available, but i took the refferences from GUP-PDR Loznica & Osečina. For the Valjevo-Osečina part, it is relatively visible on the satellite imagery.

Now for the above questioned obstructed tunnel path from the old narrow gauge addition, please see the following:

Eastern portal here: (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.2738523,19.8774945,3a,29y,222.57h,85.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSz6mQRrT71V-zBKfr9v2Gg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkwNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)

Western portal here: (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.2715789,19.869157,3a,56.9y,69.67h,94.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBqUb3OPYbTdPIkwI78cTtA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205409&entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDkwNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)

+ in the wikipedia article (use a translator) in the description of the first phase this existing tunnel is mentioned. (https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruga_Valjevo%E2%80%94Loznica)

(I am sorry for spelling mistakes...)

P.S. If this does not satisfy the need for justification, please comment & ask, I will be happy to answer & contribute what is in my power & try to find more refferences.
Thanks!
Theodore

156235690 over 1 year ago

You have removed an existing tunnel, that had been built in 1914, and it still exists today. (The proposed part, is that the city plans to renovate it for motor traffic).

139206693 over 2 years ago

Ovo nije moja fotografija, ali evo link: https://pretplatnici.tanjug.rs/storage/videos/misc/photo-watermark/2023/07/26/2607_deonica_nis_merosina_pok_3605bace45e6_photo_watermark.jpg

139206693 over 2 years ago

P.S. Ukoliko želite da vidite novefotografije sa lica mesta kod izlaza Merošina 1, mogu vam ih poslati.

139206693 over 2 years ago

Očigledno je da novom deonicom niste prošli. Svi putokazi na ovoj deonici pokazuju oznaku puta E80, A4! Ne piše čak ni 35, što se javlja tek pri izlazu sa puta, na putokazima za Merošinu i Prokuplje.