That's cool. I had no clue. Thanks!

Where's the kidney? :)

BTW, I've been doing ground surveys around Denver, and it's amazing what you find out when you're on the ground. It's also amazing what you don't find out from aerial imagery, and you can often tell when people do "armchair mapping" as OSM puts it, because they get stuff wrong that would be obvious if you were on the ground.

supercharge.info has pretty good info overall, but there are gaps. The main problem has been lat/lon, and the reason that's mostly wrong is they add a location when they first find out about a new charging station. They can get away with that because they're not actually editing OSM; they're just using it as a basemap. They don't have a formal process in place to track it, so when a station gets built and it's at a different lat/lon, nobody checks to see until someone like me comes back later, takes the time to get the lat/lon correct for OSM, then flags the supercharge.info team, who then updates their lat/lon. So the bulk editor guy didn't know this, and he didn't even come to the place where most of this Supercharger activity happens. If he had, we would have told him, "Whatever you do, don't use the lat/lon from supercharge.info!"

We are still cleaning up that mess and probably will be cleaning for another year.

The DWG (Data Working Group) got involved and the bulk import author got upset and basically packed up all his toys and went home.

Looks good. Yes, we're lacking aerial imagery there at the new Rove Charging Center. It's an interesting situation regarding licensing. Starting with the teslamotorsclub.com forum, I and others will post info from city and county building permits, news reports, plugshare, wherever. We'll also take photos of charging stations at various stages of construction and post them there. Then, the supercharge.info team takes that and plops a pin (not a way or relation) in their database, which uses OSM as a basemap. supercharge.info gave permission to OSM to use its info, and on 2025-06-22 a bulk import from supercharge.info into OSM was done. It was half-baked and added a lot of bogus data to OSM including: 1) overwriting good lat/lon with wrong lat/lon 2) creating duplicate stations 3) making L2 Tesla Destination Chargers into Tesla Superchargers 4) adding some bogus info that didn't even come from supercharge.info. I was the first OSM user to flag this and the discussion didn't go well. Read the whole saga at: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/bulk-import-of-tesla-superchargers-in-the-united-states/131561

That wasn't clear. Please retain [ name= Tesla Supercharger ] and use branch for the location name, like [ branch=San Jose, CA - Lincoln Avenue ]. This is the way Tesla names the stations on their website.

@stillhart be careful that you delete the new node/way/relation because I've seen a few duplicates where the old one was delete, which loses the history.

Also, please don't rename them "City Name Supercharger" and leave the name as "Tesla Supercharger". The location belongs in the branch, which I've been adding. It's like banks. Chase Bank is Chase Bank at all branches, but each branch is named for the location.

There's a branding problem with this stuff right now, and iD has been thinking it's a Tesla Destination Charger instead of a Tesla Supercharger. not:brand:wikidata=Q478214 seems to be the fix at the moment. It's worse with Supercharger for Business sites.

Oops, I also changed network=Tesla to network=Tesla Supercharger.

BTW, I just added my usual Supercharger station tags for this station in Version #6. I only changed 1 you had already done: motorcar=yes to motorcar=designated

Hi KelsonV. I like that you mapped the Supercharger station as a way. Back when EV chargers were a pole or two, a node maybe made sense, but now we have stations that are acres in size. OSM isn't displaying them like parking lots, even though they are part of parking lots. All that's shown now is an icon.

Would you like if OSM (carto) showed the areas of charging stations similar to parking lots, maybe with a contrasting color? I'm going to promote this idea on the OSM forum and am looking for people who would back it.

None of the major map sites have it: Gmaps, Apple Maps, or Bing Maps. Surprising about Apple because a friend who works for Vantor (formerly Maxar) told me last year the Apple was buying more of their satellite imagery than G - for Apple Maps.

Unfortunately, we don't have aerial imagery yet within OSM. Even Esri World Imagery only has the beginning of construction.

What I meant to say is enlarge the retail area that currently only includes the Goodwill, and expand it to include Rove. Then this problem goes away. Rove has a Gelsen's c-store that's not yet been mapped. Also there are solar PV canopies that cover most of the 40 stalls. All good stuff to map.

Here's an example of how they map something like this in Norway. There are 3 different charging stations there, including a Tesla Supercharger.
node/3002125370
Maybe what we do is enlarge the retail area to include Goodwill to the north (which might be a separate building). Rove occupies the smaller building next to the charging area. There will be at least 1 other charging station next to the Supercharger. Check this thread where we've been watching this place get built for not quite a year. I'm electrons4u on that forum and you can see plans and more:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/supercharger-costa-mesa-ca-harbor-blvd-rove-charging-live-23-mar-2026-28-v4-stalls.345055/

The Tesla Supercharger station is a separate station as given by https://www.tesla.com/findus/location/supercharger/4006656 . There are other chargers at Rove (12 CCS posts, 2 of which have a CHAdeMO plug). Not sure yet who owns them (maybe EVgo) and if they have their own network.

We have a problem here because we have a way (Rove) tagged as a charging station that has a node inside also tagged as a charging station (Tesla Supercharger).

The cables in Norway and other EU countries. It's getting crazy in South America because they are getting cars from all over the world (including China) and they now have charging stations with at least 4 different plugs. Take a look at this station in Bogotá, Colombia:
https://www.plugshare.com/location/585412