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182866516

That bus stop, aside the basic tags missing, really disappeared. Been an ACA sewer construction zone since a one year+. for the full length from corner del Re to the roundabout.

182912083

Hi,

This large building looks dilapidated, anything but a ruin though. I've just mapped the tower missing in the outline, very well visible in MapBox 2026 and some crossings and marked stop spots while there

happy mapping
SekeRob

176254363

Hi,

The addresses you put in with Contrada San Silvestro, an 'o' at the end are problematic for 2 reasons. For 1 change set you refer to ANNCSU which has on the address search page https://www.anncsu.gov.it/it/consultazione-dellarchivio/ricerca-strade-e-numeri-civici/ a license reference of CC-BY 4.0 which is not compatible with OSM i.e. we can not use them. 2). ANNCSU is highly inaccurate and so it was confirmed again. Did a survey from the bottom at Carlo Totaro in Silvi. First city begin sign corner with Borsolino says Santo Stefano and the address tags that I could find said Contrada Santo Stefano,. Then as following the road uphill (done many fast downhills there from Pianacce), there's end/begin signs of Santo Stefano and a little furthers there's city begin/end signs saying 'San Silvestre' with an 'e' at the end. As following the road thru, near a B&B the end/begin sign say San Silvestre with an E. That's pretty darn official to me. Then at the B&B the address shield says, yes, Via San Silvestre 97, not Contrada San Silvestro. So, think those ANNCSU addresses have to come off tout suite. Many names in ANNCSU do not match what's' on the ground and I sent you several CS comments before about that ANNCSU versus 'on the ground' conflict. The numbers and placement are UNreliable... they forgot a digit in the coordinates which easily puts address numbers on the wrong side of the road or wrong building and the mssing digit in effect locates every single address inaccurately, Worse a survey in Pescara revealed a whole group of numbers don't exist at all... only the even number. The odd ones are a mirage. Who's inventing them I don't know, I just know that Entrata has often none matching addresses such as my own street where they write to me as Via, but the old and new corner signs say Strada, and that is what we map, OSM rule, I strongly recommend you revisit all of these ANNCSU sourced data and back them out. You were so kind to put tags on some, the database shows
69 source:name=ANNCSU
42 source=ANNCSU
Cant say all are you's but an overpass query show a large number in Abruzzo. Easily retraceable in the OSM Db.
To repeat CC-BY 4.0 is not a compatible license to OSM, ANNCSU is inaccurate, unreliable, unfit for purpose. Can't use.

Happy Mapping
SekeRob

182786680

Hi,

Embarrassed, not seen the bridge tag.. Propose where it connects to the house maybe entrance=yes and level=1 to dot the eyes and take any doubt away. Was a tally looking for the footway=residential usage in Italy, very lean, a concentration in this village. in fact JOSM does not offer the value so made custom preset with a wiki link. They won't add values unless hitting 10K in Taginfo last I was told few years ago.

Ciao

182786680

Hi,

Why is this footway way/1515395309 on layer=1 ?

cheers

182682700

Hi,

Am going to revert all your excessive simplifications of area outlines. Refine, OK, not the other way around.
BTW for a simple tree row you draw single line and tag is as natural=tree_row, not a box.
For current imagery, Mapbox 2026 is advised to verify if landuse, buildings, what not have not changed. Finding many cases where Bing proofs to be substantially outdated.

Happy Mapping.
SekeRob

182591071

Not thought of the shoulder solution on the roundabout way itself. Do truck navs ingest that 'documented'? The wiki only considers these as breakdown lanes, used here a lot as unofficial fast track cycling lane along substantial, roads that don't have a bicycle=no signage. They have solid white line divider to prohibit parking

182591071

Absolutely not!. This tag was meant to be indicating there is no center island apron to help trucks/buses to navigate narrow roundabouts. Many here have and are sloped. Meanwhile found the tag actually goes on the central island WHEN THERE IS as kerb=truck_apron. A tag to indicate there's none was not ATYL'd yet.

182507015

Notably, this road is in Bing referred to as Via C. Totaro in Località San Silvestro, and by some other as Via San Silvestro. The C. is for Carlo. The Via Carlo Totaro is actually signed at the beginning/bottom of the road in Silvi where Bing gives it the same name.

182362649

Hi Kartibu

You may be fixing the numbers by adding the intl prefixes, but why not the little extra to distinct what type of number as in an other edit a cell number had the mobile tag and another contact:mobile. It's common practice to only put fixed line numbers with the contact:phone tag i.e. cell have no zero prefix so go to mobile. And then there's also the separate tag for toll free numbers i.e. phone:IT= which do not require the country prefix. Anyway those with the JOSM editor and phone plugin get automatically warned if the format is not correct/incomplete and spaces it proper for you on the go with the 'fix' button.

Happy mapping.
SekeRob

182238925

Hi,

You changed the name of a road from Strada Regionale to Strada Statale, yet the ref is unchanged SR16 bis. Whatever your OSM compatible licensed source is, it does not add up. Of course, when you change road names or names on addr:street tags, the 2 still need to continue to match i.e. QA flagged your change.

Happy Mapping
SekeRob

180324152

Hi,

v.v. this turn restriction relation/18628308/history/3 , no idea why you deleted the 'via' node from the no-left and then in the next edit inserted a *second* 'from', but it got flagged by QA since that edit. Don't k now if it's signed or if the road has a solid_line divider, but logically one would map a only straight on here and if unsigned/marked add an implicit=yes since it would be for road safety, were it not that no nav prog is able to respond in time to plan a new route after a direction mistake and trying to get back to the planned route.

Anyway, I put the 'via' back and removed the second 'from'. If you don't agree, than please provide the motivation.

happy mapping
SekeRob

PS looked up turn restrictions... double from is kind of special for no-entry situations. A via can be on a way which I do now and then if it's a 2 step, you can even have multiple via e.g. from-via-via-to, but from-from-to makes no sense.

181950124

Hi gianni55

PLEASE stop changing farm tracks to paths. It causes vehicle routing problems all over. I've reversed these changes you do many times and now it's enough. The next one will be forwarded to the DWG (Data Work Group) which oversees access to mapping.

happy mapping
SekeRob

181815628

One cause is when ID doesn't have the full MP downloaded it will not warn for mistakes like unclosed and duplicate edges. There's a button next to the a relation to fetch all (when not all are downloaded) to get the proper warnings. That said, once understanding the issue, it took less than a minute to redraw a section of the changed outline, in JOSM naturelmente ;o). Follow/trace in this editor works like 1000 nodes a minute.... just hold the F key after the second node drawn and it will continue till the next cut, and if no cut, loop around ad infinitum when not looking at the screen ;o). AFAIK ID has the follow/trace function too to bigly speed up mapping side sharing polygons without need of cutting up and creating more breakable relations, like this one proofed to be brittle.

happy mapping
SekeRob

181815628

Hi dp7

Dont traced where the farmland relation got flagged as broken, so fixed it (some areas were nolonger inside) and added a few bits like wood patches and power line objects. Renders OK now, lest there was intend of the natural=wood tag on the farmland outline.

happy mapping
SekeRob

The CS relation/14605029#map=16/43.39597/12.91257

181749440

PS. It was actually a split off from a path that had that name, just before and still carries this name value as of this moment. Tagged the split as (farm) track, which is why it was v1.

181749440

Hi,

There's actually a few dozen of these ways with this id3king reference out in the area you can root out (also some have ref:id3king as a tag). Seems from searching these comes from an external project and helps somehow to interface with OSM. Just left it, got other chickens to fry.

ciao

181423058

Hi fbyron

This 'outbuilding' you mapped got flagged because the street name in addr:street was incorrect... it's Strada Pandolfi, not Via. Since I did not remember that building ever having been there I put a note on it and today cycled by and took some pictures.
1) There are per a sign 2 parochial functions covered here at this location for San Giovanni B. and San Benedetto A. Also the parking/pedestrian area this is an Emergency Assembly Point.
https://d2exd72xrrp1s7.cloudfront.net/www/1o/1oegvebzxq8s91bhbxv2x8w0ny5r91teu2-p698501425-full/19da0ad15f9?width=1680&crop=false&q=70
2) The building you mapped is not above ground and remembering the construction period which took longer, there's no underground facility. Can only see an area that is blocked by movable bollards and planters. At times these are moved to the side to add more parking space but that is only rarely.
https://d2exd72xrrp1s7.cloudfront.net/www/41/41e6i173jhvy1pjftny8fhz2w5r91tfoe-p698501444-full/19da0ad1a32?width=1680&crop=false&q=70
Please let me know what's up with this. The wiki says this tag is used for minor/secondary builings but not regular outdoor areas. building=outbuilding
For now, I'll map the whole area including the backside parts, parking, pitch as a religious landuse zone. Maybe you can explain the source of the building, but on the ground per my survey today (follow image links above to view), it does not exist.

Happy Mapping
SekeRob

PS, we don't put descriptions of gates, ways etc in the name tag. I've removed those while reviewing your mappings of the past week. You can put those in 'description=*' and 'description:it=*' (latter tag is for those who choose to show the map in Italian instead of default English.

148499749

Hi,

On one side it appears as a corner street name, on the backside it has an arrow. Usually country roads get the name of the locality where it is leading to, now seeing on Bing that the road is called 'Via Sant'Elena' and the road ref SP57. Have updated OSM adding destination:backward Frazione Sant'Elena per the direction sign.

Happy mapping
SekeRob

177186902

Thanks for replying so quick. I now suspect you meant the ref: tag to be ref:id3king of which there are only 18 worldwide on OSM and then the value =279. I'll correct it when my mouse gets near the track again. (easy to find with JOSM)
TTYL
SekeRob