Im going to refer this to the Data Working group. You shouldn't make any changes until they weigh in.

https://surveyofpakistan.gov.pk/SiteImage/Downloads/province_map_punjab.pdf

This actually proves what I said. This legend does not show this as a "main" or "secondary" road, but instead "other." Thank you for demonstrating my point in this regard - it appears n
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The rest of your maps are not official - one is a relief agency and the other is real estate website. Only the official map you provided is relevant.

The LCCI map is extremely crudely drawn, and doesn't show the Barki road reaching the border as you incorrectly claimed.

"As well as the official surveys of Pakistan:. https://surveyofpakistan.gov.pk/SiteImage/Downloads/province_map_punjab.pdf
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Incorrect. Look at the legend. The thickness of this line is listed as "other," not secondary, not major.

"For you to try and convince other people that it isn't, is merely an abitary choice that you're making, same with the Guru Nanak Highway, and all the other classification of highways you've changed."

You were the one who tried to arbitrarily upgrade the priority of this road.

It's rich for you to be so condescending when you argued ad nauseam in a most illogical way that a Gurdwara is a town .

As a road does not connect across the border, as in the numerous examples above, your claim is wrong. You cannot cross here for literally 60 years. This is not a temporary closure as the examples you compared it to.

Also look on the Indian side of the border - there isnt a road up to the border anymore. Their road ends at what looks like a military base/border post. Seen most clearly on "Mapbox Satellite"

You cannot ignore the fact that the road does NOT connect to an Indian town, because you cannot cross the border. If you cannot cross the border, then the road does NOT connect to a town across the border. I don't know how that is so controversial? This road has been closed fo 60 years at this point. This isnt a temporary closure like COVID or recently closed like Ukraine-Russia. Neither country is talking about opening it up again.

As for the restricting access several hundred metres from the border - sure I might have just selected a chunk of road and didnt cut it into a smaller section to restrict. You can change that part without protest from me.

You can look at the Armenia-Turkey border yourself, but just a few examples:

1) D 060 to Akhurik-Gyumri Highway M-7 after

2) Araks-Hushakert Highway stops being a primary road close to the closed border even though an old bridge physically exists to connect to Turkey.

3) Also the R63 in Azerbaijan at the town of Heydarabad doesnt continue on as a high-priority road into Armenia because it doesnt serve as a border crossing since the 1994 war.

4) the Горийское шоссе - გორი-ცხინვალი-გუფთა-ჯავა-როკი on the Georgia-Russia border also drops in classification across the closed border

5) also the Didi Gromi - Mejvriskhevi border road

6) there are several examples on the Moldova-Ukraine border

And yes, look at the border between Armenia and Turkey

And if you’re kindly notice, the classification system on OSM for roads is based on function. Barki Road doesn’t connect towns anymore. It connects Lahore to a small Pakistani town near the border, and then onto a military area with no possibility of crossing over into India and onto Indian towns.

You know this is not the same issue. You’re talking about pandemic which came to an end, and an ongoing war between two countries. This road has been closed since 1965, and for 60 years there’s no serious talk of even reopening it. There’s no longer functions as a primary road.

As I said, you can maybe argue this is a locality. It doesnt meet definition of a town by any stretch the imagination - although you earlier were trying to make that point. If you cannot see what is plainly obvious from satellite imagery - that there is now town here - then I dont see a resolution.

You keep expressing a desire to miscategorize a temple as a town - I've heard various reasons from this is actually a town, to it has wikidata, to it needs to be found this way. None of this amounts to justification for mistagging it. My point is extremely simple - this is *not* a town.

And you said you'd call in a mediator. Let me know when you do an I'll respond there.

Wiki tags do not make something permanent. You were still miss categorizing this as a town, which is the underlying problem. Not breaking wiki tags. Those tags do not determine accuracy when arial imagery makes it very clear that this is not a town

You don’t get to just decide that the edits will remain. I will revert them back if I wish as well. This is an open street map, it does not belong to Jacksonville or me.

by the way, adding more inaccurate information doesn’t help the map.

What you’re doing is a total lie. This is not a town by any stretch of the imagination. You’re insisting on categorizing a temple as a town so that it shows up prominently in a map. Please bring a mediator on and restore the map to how it was before you decided to miss categorize us as a town

"And it is certainly not just a service road. Pakistanis have been alllowed to go to the border and back. Pedestrians have been to walk from the border to the complex and back."

They can go to the border (as they can basically everywhere else along the Punjab border) and back because it is a road purposely built to connect the temple with the Indian border reception centre.

The fact that you realize they can go "to" the border but cannot actually cross it demonstrates my point: This is not in anyway a secondary road that connects two cities or even two villages. It is just a road recently built to connect a temple to an Indian border reception centre. Unlike wagah, Pakistanis are not allowed to step foot across the border, and Indians cannot use this border to go anywhere else in Pakistan except for the temple complex. They cannot enter even the villages right next to the temple.

BTW Russia only closed the borders with Ukraine August 1 which had been open to Ukrainians returning to Ukraine: https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/russia-closes-20-border-crossings-with-ukraine-1753730863.html

Again, that is for tab *different* village near Zafarwal which is in the same district Narowal, but is *not* this place.

This is a religious complex, that is not what a town is. Please read and reread what a town actually means. There’s no place in the world where a mosque, temple, or church are in and of themselves considered to be an entire town. I don’t know why You are so adamant about making the map inaccurate.

It does not matter that there is a Wikipedia article that incorrectly identifies a religious complex as a town. It is still not a town and using your own eyes and satellite imagery you can see that this is not a town. You keep calling this area of town, but it does not meet the criteria of it and is not in the Pakistan census as a town. Even with the population of 1547, mistaking the other village for a town is nonsensical.

And you can search for the Gurdwara even if it’s not a town. Type in Badshahi Mosque - why do you see a result for it when it is not classified as a town?

And again, the Condor does not connect to town. It connects a temple to a border reception center. That is it.

The major difference between Russia and Ukraine is that those roads were previously open to road traffic. This instead was a road *specifically* built only recently just to connect a temple to a reception centre in India. Civilian traffic has never crossed the border for points onward. Indians cannot go any further into Pakistan. And I don’t think Pakistani can even cross the border into the Indian reception center site. So that is not a calid comparison.

And it’s called guru Nani Highway, do you think the Democratic Republic of Korea is considered a democracy? The name doesn’t matter. You have to tone down your emotions, use logic, and stop falsifying information on this map.

I agreed already that cars do go through this border - you don’t need to elaborate.

What is an example of a closed border where the classification remains of a high capacity major roadway?

Navigation is the reason that this need to be an accurate map. If a Pakistani types in directions from Lahore and Amritsar, and gets a route that makes it seem like you can just drive through the border, this is incorrect. That’s why I had to go in and change the values for who can cross because it previously said it was open to all.