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190916079

(I am not trying to restrict access more than OTG status: if I was, I would change the *whole* thing into highway=pedestrian - which it technically and legally is - and tagged motor_vehicle=yes on the southern way, just as the traffic sign states. What I am doing is *preventing* open acess in conflict with OTG status: this would lead to the old excuse "but the router has sent me there")

190916079

I disagree. The previous part (way/559451491) is not under the same conditions. It is marked as pedestrian zone (traffic sign CZ:IZ6a, so this one should also be tagged pedestrian, in ideal case - living street is CZ:IP26a, which is not the case here), but it allows any traffic (literally says "cars in traffic corridors only").

The edited part is a part of the same pedestrian zone (not living_street), but it has an additional CZ:B11 sign with "destination only". This is a different, stricter access mode, and mapped correctly there. Also, this means that general traffic is only allowed going right, into Na Bělidle.

It is unfortunate that OSMR ignores motor_vehicle=destination, but that is a defect to be raised there, not hacked around in the map to let anyone drive into the pedestrian zone. Should I raise an issue there?

190916079

Sign says "pedestrian zone," first. That is the highway=pedestrian ; also no through traffic, as already tagged by motor_vehicle=destination. Both were correct.

Changing this with "but MY SPECIFIC renderer/router/data consumer likes this far better" means that you are altering the map further from the ground reality. This is the OTG principle, and making edits for your specific case is called "mapping for the router." osm.wiki/Tagging_for_the_router

The solution is not "let's make a more convenient fictional map" - because we've already had issues like this, with people falsely closing off major streets or erasing access restrictions. "I (don't) like this" is an impulse to change the external world (including pushing for change in OSM data consumers, which includes services within the OSM ecosystem), not an impulse to alter the map.

As you say, the issue here is "we cannot get OSRM or other routers to respect the correct tagging", not "tagging was incorrect".

190916079

Hello.

That is the whole point, "but my taxis can't route there now!"

Your cars are NOT supposed to go there, BECAUSE the road is, OTG, marked as a pedestrian zone, and the OSM mapping matched what the signage says. Please do not change the map to fit your specific use case - ESPECIALLY not in a way that conflicts with the situation in terrain. (Because that would be called "vandalism" and is not taken kindly.)

Reverted in changeset/190917642

190893006

Každopádně díky za zpřesnění mapy, a vítej(te) v OSM :)

190893006

Dovolil jsem si to upravit takto: plocha tam zůstala, ale neslouží jako parkoviště.

way/663211923

190893006

Takže tam nelze ani vjet, ten plot nemá brány?

190592122

Zdravím,

Vaše úprava zřejmě pomohla u této adresy ( viz technické detaily: https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/details.html?osmtype=N&osmid=2757557174&class=place )

Nicméně zdá se, že tady si algoritmus dosud vybíral "kterou čtvrť" podle toho, ke středu které je to blíže. Což je tady Prosek, ač na kopci. Čili u míst, která jsou při hranicích, to bude přepadávat všude; jediná funkční úprava, kterou tu vidím, je u každého takového místa ručně zadat čtvrť.

Čili tady by Vám to mělo začít posléze zobrazovat Vysočany, ale pokud potkáte jiné adresní body s podobným problémem, bude třeba jim čtvrť rovněž přiřadit ručně.

Ať se daří:)

190528575

Nn, teď je to v takový situaci ani-ryba-ani-rak, nechme to tak; uvidíme a upravíme podle vývoje OTG

190528575

Bude, někdy, výhledově, snad. Až tehdy bych to upravoval, zatím je to furt vlečka...

190449728

je tu zúžená vozovka, ale highway=tertiary má jen embedded_rails, to je asi ok.

189240918

Zdroj? Co je "urttri"?

189288995

Popis. "gjh" neni nic.

189340048

Zdroj, popis?

189202984

Dobrý den, co zhruba za překážku je "hot wheels"? Ve wiki k OSM to nikde nevidím : osm.wiki/Cs:Key:barrier

Hello, what sort of barrier is "hot wheels"? I cannot see it in OSM wiki: barrier=*

Piskvor

188716753

Zdravím,

Doplnil jsem do tagů pitnou vodu a přístupnost; díky za doplnění mapy - jen ty otevírací hodiny a typ kuchyně se zapisuje v anglickém formátu; to jsem opravil.

S pozdravem,
Piškvor

188707517

Zdravím,

Díky za doplnění - pokud je to vyloženě pěšina, možná bych doporučil upravit na highway=path a přidat lit=no (pokud je bez osvětlení, nebo lit=yes, pokud je osvětlená).

S pozdravem
Piškvor

188349124

nemapuj od oka, zase jsi udelal dalnici ze silnice, ktera dalnice neni

changeset/188428600

187165150

@SekeRob: apparently multiple people are trying to tell the user this, but no reaction. I suggest reporting the user and asking for a temporary block.

188122760

Ahoj, to smazání náměstí Kosmonautů se mi nezdá: sice se nepoužívá k adresaci, ale i Pražský uličník ho uvádí:

https://prazskyulicnik.cz/detail?id=676059f7caa35719bd774c39