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69362568 about 6 years ago

Yeah, I did notice when it all got
re-added and more of less gave up on this patch!

I know the mistagging was accompanied by a lot of Wikipedia links to 'bicycle' etc. or 'name=Sidewalk', but I can see that at least some of these have been removed since. Some very small 'suburbs' mapped here too, e.g. way/252962090

Some basic background info I have of the area if you do cycle there:
I know the area just to the south of Feltham station has had major roadwork work over the past year or so which is probably still ongoing,

A temporary footbridge over the former level crossing at way/447285777 was built with a plan to build a proper permanent bridge nearby for pedestrians/cyclists, possibly as part of the station.

76835056 about 6 years ago

Thanks. That does make sense taking the nearby steps into account. I've now amended this and also added layer=-1 to the car park road.

74984667 about 6 years ago

Hi. 'Roundels' are clearly documented in the official https://new.enfield.gov.uk/services/improving-enfield/neighbourhood-regeneration-information-ponders-end-high-street-new-junction-faqs.pdf:

"Generally these suggest that the junction is operating as anticipated,
with drivers and cyclists tending to treat each of the two new roundels as
roundabouts – hence giving way to their right - but negotiating the space with less
speed and more caution than at a typical junction, as the designers intended." Also further mentions in the 'Why are the roundels not easier to see?' section.

I'd refer you to highway=mini_roundabout#Possible_misinterpretations also. In OSM, a roundabout has a non-traversable centre island, whereas a mini-roundabout has a traversable centre island.

As is clearly captured in https://goo.gl/maps/QdY8zFQGJM26Qras5, these roundels are traversable.

59324755 about 6 years ago

Hi Andy. The theme_park tagging was set in changeset/6301522

I moved this node slightly when I converted the adjacent junction to a roundabout (as otherwise it would be inside the roundabout).

However I've no idea what facilities exist inside this location... but agree that theme_park would *seem* to be inappropriate.

Regards,
Mac

74366425 over 6 years ago

Hi. Are you sure this is a true roundabout, and not just a miniroundabout as that should be mapped as a node rather than as a circle?

Satellite imagery might just be out of date, but blurry Bing imagery does show a car casting a trailing shadow as it drives over a miniroundbout roundel and other satellite imagery clearly show this as a miniroundabout, i.e. with no actual physical central barrier.

If it's been converted to a roundabout, I'll do the trickier changes necessary to maintain continuity of bus routes around it, but I thought it best to double check first if it's definitely been converted to a roundabout.

Regards,
Mac

72727871 over 6 years ago

Hi. Although this is a signed route=bicycle, based on Croydon's 2018 map at https://www.croydon.gov.uk/sites/default/files/articles/downloads/Croydon%20cycle%20route%20map.pdf, the 213 route is surprisingly not included as part of the local cycle network.

As it was developed after the London Cycle Network was abandoned by TfL, I think the number 213 was given to it by Croydon, as they seem to use triple digit numbers there for new routes, e.g. 755 and 777 unlike the rest of London.

The route still renders on https://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=7447034 etc. but OpenCycleMap doesn't render routes that aren't network=lcn/rcn/ncn and doesn't render routes with network=icn either.

It is very tempting to just tag it as network=lcn to have it render on OpenCycleMap, but unless the Croydon map hasn't just overlooked it by mistake, then it isn't strictly speaking a lcn route.

Mac

74239622 over 6 years ago

The access=no tag would infer that there is no general access, i.e. that it is closed. On the standard map this appears as a dashed grey line along the road.

I'd suggest enclosing the outline of the damaged bridge with landuse=construction (+ layer=1) to highlight the closure on the map, and if known maybe also add a barrier=fence where the road itself is closed off.

IMO highway=construction would imply the road doesn't yet exist as a feature, but as far as I know the repair work is to the support for the central arch of this bridge and the road itself does still physically exist.

73898973 over 6 years ago

Was just a temporary edit (using JOSM). Afterwards I used Potlatch (my preferred editor for drawing) to map the bus station as an area that covers more than just the building.

72980739 over 6 years ago

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72200683 over 6 years ago

Thanks for pointing out. Now corrected to "access=no"

71465799 over 6 years ago

I'm not convinced there's rendering issues with the LCN network at . I've not seen their map before, but the LCN network currently renders as blue/green dots and light blue labels on their map.

The cycle_network tag that I introduced was changed 2 months after an update of the Wiki page for cycle_network ('osm.wiki/w/index.php?title=Key:cycle_network&diff=1849158&oldid=1846536') pointed out that I should have used the UK’s ISO country code of GB, not UK. The Wiki update had been changed to show 'cycle_network=GB:London Cycle Network' for 2 months and I had discussed this with the other mapper who used this cycle_network for LCN routes.

My inkling is that your issue with cycle.travel's rendering is that it uses the colour value used in e.g. relation/6230031 to render the colour of the Cycle Superhighways. This previously was in Barclay's darker blue colour even though the official colour has been Santander's red for around 4 years. This colour clashes with the NCN routes' shade of red. But this is the correct official colour for Cycle Superhighway, as documented at http://content.tfl.gov.uk/tfl-colour-standards-issue04.pdf. The upcoming rebrand to Cycleways is likely to change the official colour but it hasn't yet been announced, although the first Cycleway signs (on C31) are a shade of lime green.

71835850 over 6 years ago

It's not that far from me to head round to check it out, in the next few days hopefully.

I had an inkling it might be ready to reopen and actually checked the west end of both the Greenway and the other path last Friday but both were still closed off then.