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187590496

Hello FajrAl. I removed way/1549907628 because it was an overlapping way created by Fitra ladjaharia, when way/600035366 already existed. Thank you and happy mapping!

185207931

Hi All, I have updated this junction so that it is consistently classified with motorway links, to follow the guidance mentioned above. iuvi, please let me know if you have any concerns with this modeling.

185207931

Hi SomeoneElse,
To follow the OSM Wiki’s guidance on highway links (osm.wiki/Highway_link), it is my understanding that highway links should be tagged with the link classification of the highest classified road they connect to. I also didn’t see any unique highway link tagging guidance on the WikiProject Kazakhstan page (osm.wiki/WikiProject_Kazakhstan).
In addition, I noticed Mapillary here (https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1071956004646332) and here (https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=3898888097061417) shows road signs for no pedestrian access on these highway links, which aligns with the restricted access of motorways and motorway links.
From this, it seems motorway_link would be the most accurate classification for all of the highway links at this junction.

184580944

Hello Jordan Mann. I had thought that these were drivable ways at first. If you’re saying that these are paths, I will defer to your judgment. Thank you and happy mapping!

184659638

Hello Thiago AG. I reclassified way/964225574 and way/964225575 to living street for consistency (I saw that a majority of the ways that you reclassified to living street, were once residential). Also, the service=driveway classification seems to fit this definition ”Primarily provides direct access to a house, garage, or carport; a small number of parking spots may be available for occupants.” more than a gated neighbourhood as seen in service=driveway. Thank you and happy mapping!

181381946

Thank you for the suggestion. I have now posted on the forum, to continue the discussion there.

181381946

In order to keep discussion in one thread, I have replied to you on this changeset (changeset/181674299), and also responded to your DM regarding your concerns. Thanks!

181673500

In order to keep discussion in one thread, I have replied to you on this changeset (changeset/181674299), and also responded to your DM regarding your concerns. Thanks!

181674435

Hello Jeffry Mardyo,

I reclassified the road after reviewing its function on the ground, as it doesn’t appear to serve as a neighborhood connector or a general through-route. Instead, it primarily provides direct access to a small number of buildings, which aligns more closely with the definition of a service road in the Malaysian Roads Tagging guidelines (osm.wiki/Malaysian_Roads_Tagging#State_roads).
Since you mentioned that the road is officially designated as a state road, would you be able to share any sources that indicate such? I’d like to better understand the basis for that classification. Thank you!

181676670

In order to keep discussion in one thread, I have replied to you on this changeset (changeset/181674299), and also responded to your DM regarding your concerns. Thanks!

181674299

I appreciate you reaching out. I want to clarify that I didn’t intend to disregard your edits, and I’m very open to discussing this further.

MapKarta was not used as a source for my changes, it was an existing tag that remained after a way was split. My edits were based on publicly available aerial imagery and surrounding contextual data, interpreted alongside the Malaysian Road Tagging Guidelines. I also took into account that many of the roads that were upgraded had historically been mapped at lower classifications by other contributors in the region, which is an important factor when considering reclassification.

According to the Malaysian guidelines, secondary roads are defined as “roads that connect key places across a state (e.g., between villages and nearby towns).” In practice, this suggests routes that link larger destinations and form part of a broader, interconnected network.

Tertiary roads are described as “roads that act as connector roads between a village and a main road,” which typically applies to routes branching from more major roads and serving larger villages. Unclassified roads “act as feeder roads… carrying traffic from villages (or residential areas) to a major road.” While this can overlap somewhat with tertiary in definition, the distinction often comes down to traffic volume and the scale or importance of the destinations served.

Because the guidelines leave room for interpretation, I think it’s important to evaluate each road within the context of the surrounding network. For example, the secondary road at node/4703310957 appears to connect multiple significant areas and contributes to the larger through-network. More broadly, across Malaysia, secondary roads typically do not terminate in rural areas; instead, they tend to carry higher volumes of traffic over longer distances between major destinations.

By comparison, way/153772993 is a good example of a tertiary road connecting villages to more significant routes, while the unclassified at way/334276076 and the residential at way/221577743 serve smaller, more rural settlements similarly to Kelait / Entangor Road (way/400767273).

That said, I value community input and would appreciate any sources or further reasoning you can share to help me understand your perspective. My goal is to maintain consistent classifications across Malaysia while aligning with the existing road network established by the OSM Malaysian mapping community. Hopefully that explains my reasoning, and I look forward to hearing your further thoughts.

181363260

Hi aRGUM,
Thank you for reaching out, I will remove the access=private tags and instead add access=permissive to the gates.

180316695

Hello iandees! Thank you for your input. Happy mapping!

179079133

Thanks for the question, I’m happy to further explain my reasoning here.

The Highway Tag Africa page states that “road typology should be based on the road importance and not on the surface or the visual appearance of a road.” (osm.wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa). This page also notes that secondaries are typically used for “Major transportation routes connecting cities and large towns” where tertiaries are for “Major transportation routes connecting towns and larger villages”. Classifying way/188319699 to way/688879384 as tertiary makes sense because it connects villages within the denser, more populated area around Kapchorwa, whereas way/382659656 to way/382659169 branch into more remote areas serving smaller settlements. Additionally, secondaries serve “arterial” function in OSM Africa: they carry through-traffic over longer distances, connect major centers to each other, link collectors to other arterials or highways, and form part of a continuous network. The highways in question mainly serve local access and distribution rather than operating as a continuous through traffic corridor.

That said, classification can be somewhat subjective, and I’m happy to defer to your assessment if you feel a different tagging would be better suited here. Hope you have a nice day!

179079133

Hi Jonáš Hubáček,
I changed classification in the area to unclassified because this mainly leads to homes and some local traffic, however I can see an argument with changing this to tertiary. If you do, I can defer to your edits.

175117040

Hello Ruslan Fatih, thanks for reaching out! 



Apple has an agreement with Vantor Hub (Previously Maxar) to use their more recent imagery to edit OpenStreetMap, which is not publicly available for editing OpenStreetMap. We generally use the imagery that is already available in JOSM but where we do use that more recent imagery, we always cite it and the date the imagery is from in the changeset source.

I updated this intersection using Vantor Hub imagery from 2025-11-22, as cited in the changeset. The imagery shows that the intersection was recently reconstructed in line with how I modelled it. Based on previous imagery, it appears the remodel was completed around October of this year.

Hope this answers your question, have a nice day!

154014778

Hello GrabMY_ainayusof, I see that the connecting road was removed. Thank you for updating me and the data, I will defer to your edits on the road connection. Happy mapping!