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186826291

Bonjour

Merci de contribuer significativement sur le département pour les ouvrages électriques, c'est très utile pour plusieurs raisons.
Nous nous organisons pour la maintenance sur le long terme de ces contributions qui devront par la suite être actualisé en fonction de la vie du réseau.

Nous en discutons ici : https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/t/jardinage-electrique-de-la-seine-et-marne-du-loiret-des-bouches-du-rhone-et-de-lain/45236/1

Serait-ce possible de veiller à systématiquement ajouter les poteaux à des lignes s'il vous plaît ? Cela permet ensuite de plus facilement les inclure aux requêtes massives de mise à jour lorsque c'est nécessaire.

Bonne journée

185789517

OpenStreetMap should use the reference set by RTE about substations naming in France.

Those two perimeters refer to the same substation and may be mapped as a multipolygon too.

185791756

Yeah, this location was progressively built and the 6th generator (6th because the 5th should be for local auxiliaires) was added later. EDF and RTE then agreed on creating an independent premise next to the new building to elevate the power to the grid.

Then the AIGLE substation is composed of two independent fenced perimeters that connects 5 bays to the grid.

It should be maped as a multipolygon and ref:FR:RTE can then go on the multipolygon

185831452

It's indeed a minor distribution substation, confirmed

185789347

Hello

Theses mentions are more to encourage us to map such substation as a single multipolygon involving the 3 fenced perimeters than to remove the ref:FR:RTE.

Here I indeed added 3 simpler perimeters with the same reference but the correct answer is a multipolygon

185766687

Hello

I mean that RTE doesn't provide accurate coordinates of its infrastructure in the Cartostock dataset, nor on Capareseau website as well (the substations doesn't appear where they actually are on the map).

There is no COLBE substation in the official dataset, so Cartostock may be wrong and should be fixed
https://odre.opendatasoft.com/explore/dataset/postes-electriques-rte/table/

185767800

Hello

It's true the site is a state owned property but that's not enough to make it as a substation.
The land should be owner by public operator so, the state should sell it. Look a this other substation nearby: it's owned by the TSO:
https://opendata.koumoul.com/applications/carte-des-parcelles-des-personnes-morales-majic?zoom=15.44800269075795&lng=4.90486195575545&lat=43.455081580637994&selected=13039000BS0017

Once the project will be completely started, a government decision will be issued, with a permit. Then we will be able to mark it in OSM as a certain infrastructure to be commissionned later.
But currently, it's too hypothetical, even highly probable, that's why we only add substations under construction like here: https://openinframap.org/#15.46/49.967237/1.232867 (everything has been approved before, so we can add it)

185776439

Hello

It's true a study has been made and public debate occured in 2024. But the final decision hasn't been made and the project could be completely cancelled. Calypso site is an historic industrial site and no work had begun yet. What you see on aerial imagery is related to casual and independent activities, particularly for mining or new trainline tunnel, but not for the substation yet.

A government decision is needed for the work to begin and at this time, when the work will begin it will be fine to mark the substation as in construction, just like way/1430729482 for instance.

So let's be patient, and wait for the project make some progress before adding it to OSM

161692678

C'est vrai et pour way/1353801592 c'est surement une erreur, je mettrais layer=2 comme les autres

185766851

Hello

There is no need to add ;RTE on the operator key.
It's a distribution substation and then operated by Enedis.

More details on osm.wiki/Power_networks/France/Exploitants#S%C3%A9paration_transport/distribution

185767800

Bonjour

Le document fourni en source est une proposition du maître d'ouvrage pour le développement du réseau d'électricité dans la zone de Marseille-Fos.

Ces scénarios vont être publiquement débattus et examinés par les autorités pour déterminer ce qui sera effectivement construits.
Ces propositions peuvent ne jamais voir le jour et nous devons attendre avant d'indiquer sur OSM ce qui sera construit, après un avis d'utilité publique.

Est-ce possible de supprimer le poste du Minéralier s'il vous plaît ?

185766687

Hello

COLBE substation doesn't exists in official repository. Cartostock results maybe unsuitable or artificially scrambled.
https://odre.opendatasoft.com/explore/dataset/postes-electriques-rte/table/

Can you restore the ref:FR:RTE=SSBR5 please?

185789347

Hello

Same comment than on changeset/185791756

Private substations like these ones can hold ref:FR:RTE since they are connected to public transmission grid.

Can you restore the ref:FR:RTE on those 3 substations please?

185789517

Hello

Same comment than on changeset/185791756
Private substations like these ones can hold a ref:FR:RTE since they are connected to the public transmission grid.

Can you restore the ref:FR:RTE=CHOO2 tag please?

185790795

Hello

It wasn't indeed a transmission substation.
It's rather a minor distribution one.
osm.wiki/Power_networks/France#Cat%C3%A9gories_de_postes

Here is a similar example: way/62490845

185791756

Hello

Private substations like this one can hold a ref:FR:RTE since they are connected to public transmission grid.
osm.wiki/FR:Key:ref:FR:RTE

Can you restore the ref:FR:RTE=AIGLE value please?

185831452

Hello

Google maps isn't a valid source for OpenStreetMap and nothing should be took from it
You will find more information about that: osm.wiki/Google

We maintain plenty of tools to contribute responsibly with way better data about power grids. You can check it on https://enedis.openstreetmap.fr or https://mapyourgrid.org

185776439

Hello

This substation hasn't been approved yet. Do you have any evidence or official statement about begining of works please?

185003817

Bonjour,
Pourquoi avoir retiré construction:power=cable sur le tracé de la ligne souterraine ?

181721041

Bonjour Enzo,

J'ai un peu de mal à suivre cette piste cyclable : way/1502874914
Je pourrai avoir de gros ennuis avec les bus je pense.

Où puis-je trouver le PCRS raster sur cette zone ? Directement à la Métropole ?

Bonne journée