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82941627 over 5 years ago

PS: this is what it looks like to navigate on wrong info "https://oekastatic.orf.at/mims/2020/14/05/crops/w=582,h=327,q=60,r=1.5/521054_master_176105_verbotenespritztour5.jpg" You may have to select the full link inside the ""

82941627 over 5 years ago

Hi, Let me remind you, openstreetmap is a database, that is used in quite a lot of places. so correct information is very much appreciated.

Some info can only be collected by a survey. An aerialview can only tell you so much, and websites are not always reliable. If you are not certain about a thing, you rather not map it. A wrong statement is much worse than a missing one.

Lets look at https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=82941627 to see what you did change:

Knabllift - you changed the name to the same as its alt_name, but this lift indeed seems to be known under two different names (even by the same source, the local tourism office).

Wurzerlift - you added the tag demolished, but there is no such tag, there is a namespace demolished: (mind the colon at the end), see demolished=*: - The lift will still show on the map; only under the other name. You might have just deleted the lift, but leaving it in place under the namespaced demolished:aerialway will hide it from the map and prevent future couchmappers from drawing it again, just because they see it on an aerial view.

Do you get that? With your age, I think you should!

81644442 over 5 years ago

Die Verbindung Sonnbichllift - Almkopfbahn ist falsch.
OSM is not about filling the void with stuff made up in your head :(

82785959 over 5 years ago

PS: Resource mentioned above - https://www.tennengau.com/magazin/die-5-schoensten-fotospots-in-st-martin-am-tennengebirge/ says the lift is no longer (as of March 2020)

82785959 over 5 years ago

I see, now you removed the "Bergstation" - I you do not know where it is - why did you put it there?

From a websearch I learned, that this is called "Alter Wurzerlift" - maybe it has been demolished as of now, that might explain, why the tourism office does not know it…

Anyways, I reverted your changes, as the rest of the changeset also does more harm than good.

82749878 over 5 years ago

2) Why did you rename Knabllift? This is the name the local tourism office calls it.
3) Why did you connect the piste with the power line?
4) How old are you?

82784254 over 5 years ago

And how did you learn the name of the lift?

The local tourism office does not know about a lift with that name, that is under operation - see https://www.stmartin.info/de/aktivdorf/skifahren/schneehoehen-lifte.html

82784254 over 5 years ago

Question: How do you know the building on the aerial view is the "Bergstation"?

82784254 over 5 years ago

This is not a repair :(

82784254 over 5 years ago

Was ist das für eine Reparatur? In meinem ganzen Leben habe ich nie einen Schlepplift mit drei Stationen gesehen!

82749878 over 5 years ago

Wurzerlift Bergstation

82749878 over 5 years ago

I see, you are at it again. For a moment, consider, that openstreetmap is not your personal playground.

Then tell me, why you put a station away from the aerialway. This does not make any sense!

82180247 over 5 years ago

Hmm, I even did try to look it up on dict.cc cs<>de with no results - seznam.cz at least suggests lanovka - apparently they know about declension.

82180247 over 5 years ago

As the mapper does not reply, in defense of my revert, which he contested, continuing from leofranz: Searching the web for the original moniker finds fotos by some Lanovkář that show skiing settings. In case that is the same person, some of the changes could indeed be first hand observations. Yet the spread of activity of the mapper would be quite expensive and time consuming an undertaking, if physically going all the places touched. Not out of the possible though, that option does not line up with the factual errors in his changesets. If those can be traced to some websites, all the more reason for a much broader revert.

82320758 over 5 years ago

Tolle Sache! Der Sill fehlen noch ein paar Stückln zum Ursprung

82180247 over 5 years ago

You mean, that you do not realize, when you blindly click validator suggestions which make no sense, that you do not realize, when you add lots of fictional stuff to the map?

81644442 almost 6 years ago

I'd consider this vandalism

76399678 almost 6 years ago

The aerialway exit in Fleiding is a little far from the aerialway. The petrol station in Czechia I do not know. The "snowcab" monorail in Hochgurgl cannot be seen on aerials and the track is quite unlikely and the web does not know it acc. to google. The extra bus stops in Gurgl duplicate one that already did exist.

82180247 almost 6 years ago

Does that mean, you will now continue to add junk to openstreetmap?

82284086 almost 6 years ago

Hmm, ich hatte das als Erinnerung für mich platziert, hätte es aber eh vergessen. Auf Esri seh ich die neuen Gebäude nicht, du hast geschummelt? Tatsächlich sind es verfallende Volieren und miteinander verbunden. Jedenfalls Danke für die Erinnerung!