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75417951 about 4 years ago

This "official" FIRE AREAS map includes, for example, a significant portion of a civilian road #4 near Yavne and even residential buildings and kindergartens (!) in western Yavne.
It is not 100% accurate.

114337318 about 4 years ago

Roads are not military training areas, despite any "official" data. A school bus full of children is as much safe there as on any other road.

114337296 about 4 years ago

As far as I rememeber, I excluded some roads from nature reserves, as roads are techinially outside such boundaries.
Any official data for such cases is not 100% accurate.

111108311 over 4 years ago

כן, המעבר מתחת לכביש כבר היה קיים כחלק ממסלול מקומי.

111108311 over 4 years ago

היי, תיקנתי.
את הכביש כבר אי אפשר לחצות בהיעדר רמזור.

100988869 almost 5 years ago

OK, done

100225109 almost 5 years ago

Oh dear.. I'll retag this back to 333...

96838513 almost 5 years ago

It is not over yet, an interim solution. When it is over it would be an ordinary roundabout with ordinary roads from/to it.

96838513 almost 5 years ago

Yes.

82924928 over 5 years ago

Thanks.

83737306 over 5 years ago

היי, מאיפה המידע שהבניה של כביש 333 כבר התחילה, ושהבניה של השכונה מצפון ל"שדרות בפארק" כבר התחילה?

54680374 almost 6 years ago

Hi, that large concrete structure was built as part of the Shmaryahu East interchange. It was visible all the time until it was covered with a new road.

Some sources mention it:
https://www.menorahgroup.com/%D7%9B%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A9-531-%D7%AA%D7%97%D7%A0%D7%AA-%D7%A9%D7%90%D7%99%D7%91%D7%94-%D7%9E%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%A3-%D7%A9%D7%9E%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95
http://www.water.gov.il/Hebrew/Rates/20173/summary-1.3.17.pdf

Some video footage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_pihOIXgKk

70612775 over 6 years ago

In construction. I've fixed the tagging right now.

46690000 over 6 years ago

Hi, I have no idea, it wasn't my edit.

70512192 over 6 years ago

Hi, I know it was anounced that highway 443 is about to be renamed to highway 45 in the future, but did it happen already? Are there any new signposts there?

63922037 about 7 years ago

I could move the boundary of the polygon you've created somewhere to the west of the highway, but I'm not even sure it exists. Let's asume it is.
Though placing a training_area tagging over some purely civilian roads, houses and kindergarten surely degrades the correctness of the map. This is what you did there. So don't expect other people to correct those obvious mistakes precisely. Just avoid them in first place.

63922037 about 7 years ago

I claim the there is no training area on the highway. I also claim that even if there is a taining area between Palmachin airbase and the highway (i.e to west of the highway), such training area does not extend to the eastern side of the highway.

And waht is your claim? That Dolev street in Yavne is more dangerous than Hatzav street, because Dolev street lays inside a training area?

63922037 about 7 years ago

Training area does not include neither road #4 nor road #4111 regardless of gov.map.il.

The are dozens of mistakes and obsolete data in the "official boundaries" of gov.map.il even in the small town I live in, moreover in the entire country.

For security reasons you can't mark a highway as military training ground. Thousands of civilian vehicles pass through every hour, it is dangerous to people to tell them to find another way through urban zones of Yavne.

Besides, OSM is not a mirror for various "official boundaries" and doesn't have to reflect errors in other maps.

63922037 about 7 years ago

I live in Israel for more than 25 years, and id you care about safety you should never mark civilian highways as military training area.

It is clear for anyone who lives here and to anyone who can use google maps and street view that Palmachim Air Forse base is to the west of highway #4.

54926837 about 8 years ago

Those are residential roads, no doubt about that. But as long as they are in construction, they sholud be marked highway:construction + construction:residential. Once complete they become highway:residential.