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179413053

JOSM has a plugin "Urban Eye 3D" which lets you visualise the building before committing. That of course means getting to know JOSM first though!
F4 is good, but sometimes takes a day or two to update.
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178994522

Interestingly, the old 50mph limit signs have not been removed adjacent to Galgate Bridge, so there is a different speed limit going north than the limit going south. I've left the lower limit in place, as I suspect the old signs will be removed in the near future.

178331911

Awesome, thank you

178331911

Hello, if I'm reading this change right, I think this change removes the ability to turn right from Broadway onto Marine Road East. Is that intentional?

PS Thanks for all the updates you've been doing around Morecambe recently :)

177945643

What was the source you used to confirm the correct house numbers?

177499114

Hello, thank you for adding UPRNs around Lancaster.
I've not had time to inspect every modification, but there's a few that have stood out as suspicious - are you sure they're correct?
Several patches of canal are tagged with a UPRN - should these maybe be the bridge or the road that's tagged? -
way/1083199517
way/1054546554
way/642117631
On this one - maybe the tag would go better on the school site, rather than an individual building?
way/385398584
I welcome your thoughts on these

176458740

Thanks, I forgot I needed to come back to this one!
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172121938

Awesome, thank you :)

172121938

Hello! Thanks for updating the details on schools in Lancashire!

Did you mean to put the check_date further back than it already was on Ellel St Johns School? way/454054893

170833961

Looks good, thanks

170833961

Hello!

Are you sure about the tagging on the residential paths on Craven Court? The ones marked access=private or access=destination will be privately owned, and those owners may well permit cycling. :)

170434293

Hi Gorger, sorry for the delay - I've been away.

I'm not sure I agree that it is street-side parking. There's a not-great mapillary image here https://www.mapillary.com/app/user/dezza?lat=54.053369355488&lng=-2.8008641940067&z=17&pKey=1443301276937769&focus=photo&x=0.19849821746880958&y=0.5797765189655096&zoom=1.235774252825336 - it's just a large area of gravel used as parking. I agree from reading around that parking aisle was incorrect.

My suggestion would be to leave as-is now, but I welcome guidance from a more seasoned mapper! :-)

170434293

Hello! Thank you got fixing this.
Are you able to confirm exactly what was incorrect about the junction? Is it that there shouldn't have been a highway into the parking area?

170355714

D'oh! Thank you :)

170331229

Thank you!

170175876

So there's an interesting quirk on this 1890 map - https://maps.nls.uk/view/229946781 with "Back Cable Street" appearing behind buildings on "Parliament Street" on what is now the car park for the Parliament Street Retail Park.

That aside, all the other evidence I have is that Parliament Street runs as far as the North Road junction on both sides.

The key point is this bus lane order from 2019 - https://council.lancashire.gov.uk/documents/s155424/Appendix%20A.pdf
- While it has maps that we can't use, it does have a textual description which presumably we can use which talks about a bus lane starting on Parliament Street 105 metres south west of the Centreline of Bulk Road, to the left turn filter at its junction with Greyhound Bridge Road. That to me is enough evidence that way/96055314 is not Cable Street and is in fact Parliament Street.

Updated in changeset/170353883

170175876

Updated the crossings in changeset/170352860
Going to do a little more research on the street naming - hopefully I can find a usable source

170175876

I guess there's also the unmarked crossing of Greyhound Bridge Road to the NW of the lights. Is that fundamentally different to the crossing across NE-bound Parliament Street? The only difference is that there are 2 phases when a pedestrian can cross here without conflict

170175876

Hello, I've just been re-reading the wiki and yes I think you might be right, although there is some extra nuance here.

Mapillary image here -
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=54.05268786118398&lng=-2.7961026701102583&z=18.002058557365068&pKey=169029318452074&focus=photo

Interestingly the crossing is only marked on the exit from Parliament Street, and not the entrance (i.e. only across the bus lane). I think this may be because it is only this half that has a phase where the pedestrians can cross (to the island) while protected by lights.

There are (from memory) 3 phases at these lights.
1. Cable Street -> Parliament Street both directions, ahead-only, + pedestrian crossing Bulk Road
2. Cable Street -> Parliament Street (NE direction only) + Bulk Road -> Parliament Street left turn only.
3. Bulk Road -> all directions

All of these phases permit traffic to enter Parliament Street and conflict with pedestrians crossing - probably the reason for no markings on the NE-bound lane, and no signals.

Does that change how we tag it? Example 5 on the wiki certainly fits for the bus-lane. But the general traffic lane in the opposite direction is possibly just a standard unmarked crossing like you would get at any uncontrolled junction. However is that any different to example 5? Presumably there traffic can still turn into the junction and conflict with pedestrians - just have to give them priority?

As an aside, I think the labelling of Cable Street vs Parliament street is wrong - I think the area NE of the junction is all Parliament Street (you can see the sign on the mapillary image on the left hand wall under the green arrow), on the other side we can't use them as a source but MARIO and Google Maps both agree on a name while OSM has one side Cable Street and the other side Parliament Street!

My suggestion would be to tag as per your suggestion for the bus-lane side, but the other side I'm less sure. I don't object to apply your suggestions to both sides (possibly with different crossing:markings=*).

How does that sound?

169860609

Note - these positions may not be 100% accurate, but more of an aid to future mappers for the street numbering. Interpolation will be needed for the intermediate houses.