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Hi Andy, I'm still a little confused after reading your user Block summary, osm.org/user_blocks/6057 you left out much of Mxxcon's, rude statements and called the ones you left, 'slightly less politely' But regardless, in every reply you included, I was polite and illustrates my ignorance of what can be posted. To be fair to me you should not have excluded the rude mockery made by Mxxcon that led to this thread, and this thread as well. Do I smell a conspiracy here?

Anyway, In this thread, I explained that his actions could possibly jeopardize OSM someday, including the careless dare to start legal action and stating an uneducated statement that a non-profit foundation can not be sued. Besides blocking, If you haven't already, please remove all my 22 requests or direct me to a link that will teach me how to remove them, (It's obvious that I don't know how, after deleting things I didn't intend to on Olvera Street, boy if I recall, that was my first screw up that became worse). Anyways I will remove those that were approved, then I will close my account.

It is obvious that you have no intentions of changing or disciplining the way your volunteer discriminates against a group of people.

PS: You do have some very kind, understanding, and polite volunteers in your group. You should thank them and give them a big hug for me.

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Mxxcon, You want to continue. Do you think I would sit here and explain my actions if I intentionally vandalized OSM?

It's obvious that you are butt hurt because I sounded you on your rude treatment towards me. Now that I manned up to my mistakes, you should man up to yours by apologizing.

Question; Is there a procedure that volunteers can go through to delete one's profile? If You and the other volunteers feel I deserve to be deleted, after my explanation, so be it, but, I ask to do so by going through the proper procedures, not name calling, and reacting out of anger. I am starting to believe that maybe you aren't a racist based on your record, but, rather you may have a kiss of narcissism, especially IF, you can't confess to what you are obviously doing.

You, being a volunteer for 10 years, I wonder if other volunteers in your group feel the same. If so, You may consider retiring.

That said, I'm not sure why you and the other volunteer feel that Non-profit organizations and their volunteers are immune to lawsuits, then daring me to start one. That was not my intention, i was only warning you that could be a possibility. Do OSM and whoever pays the bills a favor, google that as well. Your admitted discriminatory focus toward one group of people, (Uplanders) is not good for OSM, or Upland in general.

In ending, If I am not banned, feel free to delete all my entries as you suggested, and let's start over while I learn OSM system. Meantime if allowed, I prefer someone else, less sour, to review my entries because, at this point, it's obvious your hate toward uplanders and me, can't be controlled.

Oh, to the other volunteer, thank you, for letting me know where to file a complaint. What I did, does not, and should not excuse your response and how you treat an entire group of people.

No need to respond to me, submit your case to the OSM review board (if there is one) to let the chips fall where they may. I'm good either way.

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Being no owners or governance, means volunteers can run ramped, is this correct? If so, You must really be hurting for volunteers, to allow his actions to continue. Okay, I'm done.

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Zlonewolf, well then, someone is acting like they own the OSM domain.

Here is a copy of their email.

Merci d'avoir contacté le département Abuse de Gandi.net

La société Gandi SAS prend très au sérieux les plaintes qui lui sont soumises et reste très active dans sa participation envers les activités illégales sur Internet.

Nous mettons tout en œuvre afin de vous apporter une réponse dans les meilleurs délais.

Le département Abuse

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Thank you for contacting the Abuse Department of Gandi.net.

We take abuse complaints seriously and process them with due diligence. As an active player in the fight against spam and illicit activities on the internet.

We will examine your case in detail and will do our best to give you a reply as soon as possible.

Gandi Abuse team

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Hi Clay-c, to be honest, being new to the upland game, I saw many title changes taking place in the metaverse, I was told it can easily be done on OSM. Being new to OSM I thought it was okay, foolishly I didn't think of reading the rules and so I happily thought I could add titles, as I pleased. Once I found out I couldn't. I stopped adding iconic people's names and locations without identification. I did apologize, but even that was not good enough. After thinking about it, I figured by simply adding a page and explaining the rules and regulations of OSM, could help both Upland and the OSM community. Believe it or not, I thought, both websites can help each other. And, I thought by adding the a discord page would enlighten Upland owners of the problem and maybe impose strict rules not to make any changes to OSM.

Okay, UPX is a token used by uplanders to buy and sell properties (NFTs). I know it was silly to add upx, but I honestly thought it was a fun thing to do, in turn illustrating my ignorance of the OSM rules. Please note, in upland, a player can not own parking lots, unless it has an address, and even then it is shown in upland as a buildable lot, not a parking lot. I figured it would be clever and funny to add upx as the excepted parking fee, but, there is no way to collect any tokens for a parking lot. To the best of my knowledge, Upland has no intentions of adding parking lots, because players are building rental units on everything with an address.

Yes, having a name on a property can increase the value and saleability of their properties. But unlike me, as of late, players don't understand that titles will soon be worthless anyway.

Stay professional.

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Okay Zelonewolf, So basically you are saying nothing will change on your end. Volunteers are allowed to disrespect people, as they choose. That's fine... Please note, that your non-profit foundation is owned by an organization that seems to think they have a say so on how their volunteers act.

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Oh, one more thing, this is not my game, I am not affiliated with Upland, other than playing the game. My only concern is disrespect from volunteers. This continued even after I apologized and told Mxxcon I understand now and would not do this anymore. As your own community stated, give the new people a chance to learn and warn them as required, not insulting them. Please review my request and you'll see they all took place in a very short time period. Needless to say, those were my very first uneducated, and misinformed submittals. but I've learned.

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Willkmis, I understand and I appreciate your professional explanation and request. All I asked was to refrain from name-calling and insulting people, regardless of where they come from. OSM is owned by a 'Company' that cares about abuse, from both sides and is investigating my complaint. As mentioned before, I will identify properties per the rules and regulations as required by OSM. But I also ask that the OSM community to be professional (most are) and follow the rules of, OSM. This may be a silly question, but, does OSM (Gandi) allow rude insults and name-calling by volunteers? If so, then my thought of starting a discord channel would be fruitless. My thought was to ask players to submit their requests for my review, In hopes to lessen the load, by making sure changes are correct and per OSM rules and regulations. Needless to say, I am retired, so I have time to volunteer on this end. But, I do not want to bother, if, careless volunteers like Mxxcon continues to be rude and unprofessional. Grant it, I can't stop all bad intentions, just like you can't, but, maybe I can help, by educating and posting OSM rules and regulations, And reviewing change requests, before it they even hit the OSM community.

Please note, as far as I understand, someday soon, The metaverse web3, will not use your titles for their properties, because, their own buildings and advertisers on those buildings will replace, OSM titles, hopefully soon.

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I designated the property as a parking lot because that's what it is. But, after reviewing your rules and regulations, I will no longer submit changes unless they are identified as such.

Please Note: I do not speak for Upland, But, as you know everything Mxxcon states is a direct reflection of the OpenStreetMap (OSM) company name. These Slanderest rude statements are recorded on the worldwide web and can be seen by Upland and their potential players. Please ask him to stop, or, I will address this issue directly with Upland, themselves. Defamation of the Upland Name, by openly calling 99% of their players, vandals, and treating them as such, could lead to problems for OSM. I also suggest OSM not take his stance and openly allow his slander of the Upland Name, or anyone else for that matter. Mind you, Upland has 240,000+ players of which 45,000 play daily. It is the fastest growing Metaverse in the world and many of the players are adult professionals like Doctors, Attornies, real estate agents, and Not Vandals. Upland is a Real Estate and Business website, not a bunch of kids.
You guys have a great company and provide a great service, but, If allowed his actions by Defaming the Upland Name, and their players can be seen as OSM point of view. Besides, it's not very professional and could possibly lead to legal action by Upland themselves.
Again, I am asking OSM directly, to please stop Him from making faulty accusations and to keep his feelings to himself.
Better yet, being that there are others complaining about his rudeness, why take the risk?

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I understand and I do apologize. Thank you for the link and kindness.

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I hope your rude actions are documented as well...

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Prove you wrong? lol... You've proved yourself wrong by stating 99% of submittals by Upland are vandals. I think you are the one that needs to clarify your statement to the website.

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So you plan to continue to be rude instead of talking to people like they are human. If I could, I would fire you for your rude actions. I hope this website googles how you have been treating people.

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I see what's going on, you're against Upland, and any submittal they do. it seems to me, they are helping this website identify locations, much more than your name calling.

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Mxxcon, I google your name by the way, and I am not the only one that has undergone your name calling and rude treatment, please stop, you are ruining this beautiful helpful website. Oh and please remove me from your black list of vandals.

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I forgot to mention, not sure if you understand NFTs but it is a new wave of home businesses that sell only online. I do understand that it could be confusing, so I would understand this correction. Please stop calling me a vandal, I am 64 years old with 15 grandchildren. I do not vandalize. Not to pull the race card, but I honestly thought you were against Hispanics (based on my last name) and started calling every submittal of mine, vandalism. Thank you.

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I didn't know it required a Plaque at every iconic location. I thought Every book written about Bobby Fischer has this Address. Most likely there is a plaque, but, I don't live there to photograph it. I didn't know that was required to identify every iconic location.

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And it was my error not seeing the identification of the Olvera street itself. And again I apologized.

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Yes, the larger area could be considered the art district, but mainly Olvera street itself is full of artist's shops.

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Olvera Street has no traffic, only foot traffic. It should be named and identified being a very popular Mexican tourist location. I did apologize for the error.