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59132316

Hi Danbag,
you tagged this road with access=no
way/83120542
Is this a mistake or is this part of the sentiero azurro really closed?
Regards, Reiner

71638236

Nein, außerhab von Wohngebieten ist Maps4BW weder genau noch auf einem guten Nachführungsstand.
Darüberhinaus halte ich es für sehr fragwürdig, Einträge von anderen Mappern ohne eigenes Vor-Ort-Wissen oder zumindest einem Luftbild zu überschreiben. Das widerspricht den Grundprinzipien von OSM.

71638236

Bitte Warnungen nicht lösen, indem du nicht existente Bacheigenschaften einfügst. Maps4BW ist hier falsch

72138151

Ich stimme mit deiner Notiz zur SAC scale völlig überein und habe SAC scale auf T3 geändert

73299224

Hi Ilmarlov,
please reconsider your change of the diretissima from T4 to T5. T5 appears way exaggerated.
Best regards
Reiner

74162966

Sorry, my mistake: Dino did not delete the SAC scale.

74162966

Hi Caielba
honestly, you are exaggerating the difficulty of the trail and in particular the neccessity of using a harness. Maybe the CAI has reasons to declare this trail more difficult than it is (e.g. for the management of visitors), but for OSM, we have an on the ground rule. This means, it should all be rated the way it is.
If you check the ratings of this trail on, e.g., hikr.org, as posted above, you will find a general rating not exceeding T4, i.e. alpine hiking.
Though only anectdotal, the day we hiked the trail, we met 7 persons, none using harnesses or something similar.
According to the via_ferrata proposal, a trail should be tagged via_ferrata only, when the use of a harness is the rule and not the exemption, as for instance for beginners.
Precisely for this situation, OSM has the possibility to tag a trail as highway=path, assisted_trail=yes. And that's what I did, as it reflects reality the best way. Please note that I did not delete the via ferrata rating. This is in strong contrast to Dino, who deleted tha SAC scale rating in his prior change without need.
Best regards,
Reiner

74162966

https://www.hikr.org/dir/Monte_Capanne_6715/tour/

Checking the posts of the past years after the cables have been installed on the hot spots, all hikers come to a very similar conclusion about the trail as I do.

74162966

HI Dino,
your document states that there is no easy relation between CAI scale and SAC scale. As OSM uses SAC scale, lets stay with that. As I wrote, the path is T3 with stretches of T4. The previous assignment of the trail was even T3 only. It is not T5. And it is not a via ferrata, but an assisted trail. Please leave it with than.
Best regards
Reiner

74162966

Hi Dino,
please take a look at the SAC classification scheme here
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAC-Wanderskala
Already T3 may involve the presence of cables. For OSM, the presence of cables etc. is acknowledged by the tagging as assisted trail.
Via Ferrata should be used only when it can no longer be considered a hiking trail. The 100 trail on Capanne is mostly in the T3 range with some stretches T4, but not more difficult.
Best regards
Reiner

70107173

Hi Dino,
I changed at Monte Capanne the highway= via ferrata back to path as before and added assisted trail, where applicable. This reflects much better the properties of the trail. I changed the sac scale to t4 to make clear, that this is an alpine trail, according to the signs along the way.

35389658

Hallo Pscl
du hast rund um den Säntis mehrere Wege mit mtb scale S4 und S5 bewertet. Bist Du die Wege wirklich gefahren? Insbesondere beim Altmann kommt mir das doch etwas abwegig vor. Ansonsten würde ich die mtb scale nämlich löschen, um Missverständnissen vorzubeugen ...
VG Reiner

69207849

bitte Beschreibungen, die keine echten Eigennamen sind, nicht ins name-Feld, sondern in description

66775182

Hallo malta-dinger,
bis auf die Sonne bei der Ebneter Brücke steht von dem Planetenweg seit mehreren Jahren nichts mehr.

69769889

Hi Guillaume,
you created tourism attraction Gazon du Faing at the top of Ringbuhlkopf. But the peak Gazon du Faing is way further north. I separated tourism attraction and its name from the peak.

69554044

Why did you remove the path tag. Is the path closed?

68487736

I deleted the tourism=attraction link at ferme auberge Schiessroth, as it is inappropriate

67081311

Ich habe mittlerweile 6 Wege zurück korrigiert, deren ursprünglich korrekter Verlauf durch deinen Änderungssatz verfälscht wurden. Das muss doch nicht sein!

67081311

Bitte nicht von Maps4bw abpausen und korrekte Wegverläufe verschlimmbessern!

67081311

Der Wegverlauf des Flaunserwegs stimmt mit der Realität nicht überein.