you are adding and changing a lot of tags of objects that are not correct. You have also duplicated some POIs already. Please make yourself familiar with the tags and editing in OSM before changing a lot of them. Operncafé has been disused for a while and to my knowledge has not been reopened. The same goes for changing office=research to office=association. In some cases this is not appropiate. Please refer to the wiki if you have questions (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/). I will have a further look into your changes later this evening, as I already can see that some are questionable.
I'm sorry if I added wrong tags - I'm just preparing a wheelmap project for tomorrow (to evaluate the wheelchair accessibility of places) and in order for locations to appear on wheelmap they need to have a certain node. So I changed the amenities of a couple places to something similar (e.g. research doesn't appear on wheelmap, but association does). I didn't mean bad, sorry if that was wrong.
no, you don't have to add points of interest to OSM a second time to make them appear on Wheelmap.
Wheelmap has a few bugs relating the usage of OSM data. In general, Wheelmap also supports points of interest which are mapped as areas (closed ways) but many recent (last modified or created less than two years ago) objects are missing their. It is their fault. See https://github.com/sozialhelden/wheelmap/issues/690 for further information.
Wheelmap does not display all points of interest which are mapped in OSM. However, you must not add wrong or misleading tags to objects in order to make them appear on wheelmap.org. That's called tagging for the renderer. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
OSM is not the backend of Wheelmap. It is used by thousands of other applications and millions of users. Adding wrong or duplicated data to OSM in order to make a buggy application work, harms all of them. It is the responsibility of the operator of Wheelmap to provide a good application. Having an event tomorrow is no excuse.
Btw, please keep in mind that organised edits should be announced in advance to the local community and the community should have a reasonable time to discuss. This is quite important if the event involves lots of new users. There are no fix rules for these kinds of acitivities but a consensus among the community (especially in Germany). See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Directed_Editing_Policy for details. If your activity is against the will of the community, introduces a lot of errors into OSM and you (and your team) don't fix them within the following hours, the community might decide to revert all contributions because it is easier then investing hours of volunteer time to separate the good from the bad contributions.
I would like to ask you not to use Wheelmap for an mapping event. The app contains multiple bugs:
(1) Some features mapped as areas in OSM are not shown there (see above). These makes users to add them again.
(2) Sometimes features are added hundreds of kilometers away from their correct location because the app has a bug and uses the last known location (or a default location).
(3) The app invites users to add features at the location returned by the geocoder. This leads to multiple objects stacked on top of each other which is not good editing practice.
Please use the online editor iD on www.openstreetmap.org instead.
This message does not sound positive but I don't want to see you running into the same issues as a similar acitivity in Offenbach am Main a few weeks ago. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2018-October/115378.html Their edits have been reverted due to too much quality issues.
I didn't add wrong tags to make it work on wheelmap, I just chose tags that work and also fit.
The participants of the wheelmap project will only work with wheelmap and not openstreetmap. They will only evaluate the existing places according to their wheelchair accessibility. Therefore, I tried adding all places today.
Again, I am sorry if I added wrong tags, will not add any more now and people will only evaluate existing locations.
I hope that we will not make any (more) mistakes.
Thanks for your explanation.
Wheelmap is an application to edit OSM directly. All edits, except changing the accessibility of a location (wheelchair=*), the description of accessibility (wheelchair:description=*) and the accessibility of the toilets (toilets:wheelchair=*) require an OSM account/login. Therefore, edits on Wheelmap are edits to OSM and have to respect the community.
That's exactly what we'll do, only changing the accessibility of a location and of the toilets.
And please don't get me wrong, I totally want to respect the community and do things right. I only explained what we'll do and didn't try to find excuses.
Hey Susan, thanks for the responses. Thanks Michael for explaining the issues with Wheelmap, so I won't delve into this any further.
I went through the entries and removed some duplicates or changed tags back to the original tag in changeset #63840443. Some of them are certainly not carved in stone but changing them for the Wheelmap is a suboptimal intention. Which doens't mean that some of them can't be improved. There is certainly room for that, like HKW which seems a bit messy right now because of building multipolygons and 3D-tagging and I'm going to look into cleaning it up a bit. Some of the other objects can probably improved too, usually involving more than a single tag to be changed though.
By the way, "Theater des Westens" is actually really called "Stage Theater des Westens" now. There is probably a case for a loc_name here as nobody ever calls it by that name of course but it still is the (terrible) actual commercialised name right now.
If any questions arise or you'd like for me to explain some of the reverted changes further and discuss them feel free to contact me. :)
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