Changeset: 137409727
Parking tagging
Closed by Pink Duck
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created_by | JOSM/1.5 (18746 en_GB) |
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source | local_knowledge |
Discussion
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Comment from mueschel
Hi,
the parking tags you used here are outdated. Please have a look at the current tagging scheme:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Street_parking -
Comment from Pink Duck
Deprecated, yes am aware of that. Since relatively recently mapped will go back over and bring to the newer version.
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Comment from Pink Duck
The latest scheme is actually a little unclear as to what to do with double yellow lane edge lines. Is that parking:left=lane, or parking:left=no, since legal definition is because of the yellow paint, but physically remains possible to park briefly to alight/pick-up passengers/cargo. Opted for lane value.
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Comment from mueschel
Tagging should reflect the legal situation. Physically you can park your car diagonally on a 3 lane motorway... but legally you're not allowed (and shouldn't for obvious reasons)
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Comment from Pink Duck
Except the new scheme deliberately splits physical from legal. Previously just parking:lane:both=no_parking was sufficient. Motorways from rule 240 are generally prohibited from stopping or waiting, so parking:both=no would be fine now. Residentially though as above can actually wait on the double yellows for a bit.
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Comment from mueschel
I'm not fully aware of the implications of a double yellow line in the UK, but wouldn't "parking lane is present but stopping is forbidden" be
parking:both = lane
parking:both:restriction = no_stopping
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Comment from Pink Duck
In UK law it is 'waiting' that is not permitted, with exemption for alighting/picking-up passengers or cargo, typically of under 5 minute duration. So stopping and waiting is conditionally lawful.
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Comment from Pink Duck
Loading can be banned by adding double yellow orthogonal paint to the kerb edge intermittently too. In London there are also double red lines, just to add to the mix.
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Comment from mueschel
These cases should be covered by restriction = no_stopping / no_standing / no_parking.
Wiki says that the UK "no waiting" translates to no_parking which seems to make sense.
Maybe you can extend the table for the restriction tag with a hint about UK street markings?
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Comment from Pink Duck
That it does, but is all back on the legal limitation side and not the physical explicit lane tagging.
I could add detail about the alighting/loading meaning parking:both=lane is appropriate over parking:both=no for UK double yellow lines.
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