Changeset: 133388647
Georgia: add operator:wikidata=Q856783 to CSX trackage
Closed by clay_c
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Discussion
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Comment from zluuzki
Where was it discussed to add those pointless wikidata duplications and replace "CSX" with a longer variant (and all other edits within this massive automated edit series)?
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Comment from clay_c
Nowhere.
Tracks all over the country have been tagged over the years with various names for the same operator (e.g. "CSX", "CSXT", "CSX Transportation"). I went through and made sure all tracks operated by the same company have the same operator value, and added operator:wikidata to mitigate this sort of data degradation in the future. The "longer variant" here is the name of the company without abbreviations, according to OSM conventions.
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Comment from zluuzki
How exactly is "operator:wikidata" helping to "mitigate this sort of data degradation in the future"?
It especially degrades the data when people forget to update both tags and they conflict with each other.
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Comment from clay_c
If someone forgets to update both tags and they conflict with each other, please talk to them and try to figure out what they were attempting to do, and help them finish the job. I've added an issue on the Name Suggestion Index repository to hopefully make it less complicated to keep these tags out of conflict. https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/issues/7857
Plus, data consumers can deduce much more information from `operator:wikidata` than from `operator`. If, for example, I want a renderer that displays the reporting marks of railroads, I can determine that by checking the statements in the Wikidata item attached to it.
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Comment from zluuzki
"Plus, data consumers can deduce much more information from `operator:wikidata` than from `operator`. If, for example, I want a renderer that displays the reporting marks of railroads, I can determine that by checking the statements in the Wikidata item attached to it."
Sorry, but all of those "good reasons" I've heard so far sound like maximum effort for minimal benefit. If I wanted to have something like that within my map/tool, I would write a one-time wikidata query which extracts a table with operators and their reporting marks, and use this to match the normal "operator=*" values.
Something like https://w.wiki/6Rg8
... I wrote this using Chatgpt, all I had to to was to replace the properties with the correct ones - took less than 5 minutes. Another 5 minutes, and it would probably also include all aliases.Don't get me wrong: I, too, feel it is very important that these "operator" tags are consistent. "CSX Transportation" has been used almost not at all so far, but ok.
But I'm pretty sure that these Wikidata tags -especially on train tracks- cause much more maintaining effort than they would really ever help anyone.
- Nahunta Subdivision (9532971), v22
- Rayonier track (9534499), v8
- Jesup Subdivision (9535039), v16
- 9535062, v9
- Dalton Siding (9537277), v10
- 9537747, v6
- 9537938, v6
- Tunnel Hill Siding (9542471), v6
- Tilton Siding (9542499), v9
- Bainbridge Subdivision (10933853), v26
- Inman Park Belt Line (25513303), v18
- Atlanta Terminal Subdivision (25513344), v8
- Inman Park Belt Line (25513444), v13
- Inman Park Belt Line (25513448), v9
- Atlanta Terminal Subdivision (25587555), v14
- Atlanta Terminal Subdivision (38945247), v12
- Atlanta Terminal Subdivision (38945248), v9
- Abbeville Subdivision (39813859), v11
- Abbeville Subdivision (39813860), v12
- Abbeville Subdivision (39813863), v10
- Adairsville DD (66208161), v5
- Cartersville DD (66277436), v5
- 67593694, v7
- 67649785, v9
- 67699718, v10
- 67738437, v8
- Sawdust DD (67866685), v5
- 67926230, v13
- 67968343, v8
- 71563770, v5
- Crawfordville DD (72695663), v5
- 7057361019, v6
- 7057370629, v5
- 7066534529, v4
- 7066534530, v5
- 7066534531, v4
- 7066534648, v5
- 7066546769, v5
- 7066558399, v5
- 7066558440, v5
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