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Winter Warmer Pubs

Posted by robbieonsea on 1 February 2013 in English (English)

It would be nice if more pubs where tagged with real_fire=yes to determine whether the pub has an active and frequently used fireplace when it's cold outside.

At the moment this is barely used tag, but would be quite interesting to see it used on a large scale.

I would encourage all mappers to consider this tag value and update any known places - may be including some research this weekend or any other time it's cold around where you are.

It must be noted that in 'surveying' a pub in summertime it can be hard to determine if any fireplace is in actual use during the colder months. One may have to ask the staff or inquire with a local drinker.

There are other websites that list the real fire (among the many) properties of pubs (of course do not copy any copyrighted data), but from my local knowledge they seem fairly inaccurate - seems more like saying they have they a fireplace capability - even though they never or so infrequently use them that it shouldn't part of a reason to go there.

It may be some time before any pubs with fires are rendered on the standard maps (flaming pint anyone?), but with the new Overpass Turbo it's quite easy to do a search on even reasonably large areas, such as Hampshire (a UK county size).

Simply like:

<query type="node">
  <has-kv k="amenity" v="pub"/>
  <has-kv k="real_fire" v="yes"/>
  <bbox-query {{bbox}}/>
</query>

Of course this can be improved just to include pubs marked as building areas.

Location: North End, Portsmouth, South East England, England, United Kingdom

Waypoint Symbol Aide Memoir

Posted by robbieonsea on 26 October 2012 in English (English)

Harry Hill style, gotta have your (waypoint) system:

  • Ultravox ; post_box
  • Steve Coast ; guidepost
  • Eddie Izzard ; barrier bollard
  • Frederick Ramm ; ice cream van

But short of trying to invent a Famous Name to a Mapping Feature as an aide memoir, here is my list of waypoint symbols I create (on a Garmin Etrex Legend HCx) whilst out and about on foot or bicycle in England and their meaning:

Symbol | Meaning

  1. Flag, Blue | Stile
  2. Flag, Green | Gate
  3. Flag, Red | Public Telephone [1]*
  4. Block, Blue | Bridge
  5. Block, Green | Kissing Gate
  6. Block, Red | Postbox. Maybe stop* and photograph for extended detail.
  7. Pin, Blue | If at begining or end of a way - highway bridleway (i.e. ROW), otherwise in middle of a way - highway track (i.e physical)
  8. Pin, Green | If at begining or end of a way - highway footway (i.e. PROW), otherwise in middle of a way - highway path (i.e physical)
  9. Pin, Red| | Middle of a way - highway service
  10. City, (Small) | On road transistion between 30 mph zone to National speed limit. Off road transistion between path and track.
  11. City, (Medium)| Unused
  12. City, (Large) | (Symbol is large green blob) Misc feature is here - as an aid to memory. Maybe stop* and photograph.
  • If out cycling especially on road often I don't want to stop just to map minor details (they could already be mapped anyway). If I stopped and photographed things, then one can geolocate them using the photo timestamp and tracklog - so you don't need to waypoint it.

[1] I used to map telephones, but don't do so much any more: a. Telephones out in the UK countryside, may not be in active service anymore. So can't tell just by passing on bicycle. b. It's more and more likely you'll be accessing the map via a mobile telephone in the first place.

The advantage of this method is in not having to stop when cycling to get a first pass level of detail. Using only a limited subset of waypoint symbol makes it possible to create them on the move. Especially for the telephone as there is a waypoint symbol for it, you have to scroll around using a joystick on the GPS device which can be tricky (and take too long and thus dangerous) when on a bicycle.

Obviously other symbols can be used for the normal meanings: places of worship, parking, etc...

One can come up with various schemes to use these points for quickly mapping the details relevent to you.

Location: Hilsea, Portsmouth, South East England, England, United Kingdom

Joined Help

Posted by robbieonsea on 10 April 2012 in English (English)

I finally got around to joining http://help.openstreetmap.org since today (well technically yesterday as I write at night) the weather in the South of the UK has been conducive to indoor activities.

I'm up to 91 points (http://help.openstreetmap.org/users/3300/robbieonsea) - yay go me! But that's much to self congratulatory for my normal British manners.

One day I may even get around to setting up a picture of myself as an avatar - but for now I'll leave that to Facebook & Google to join the dots of my various online activities...

Location: Fort Monkton, Anglesey, Gosport, Hampshire, South East England, England, United Kingdom
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